Giving More Than 100%

[Dave P.]

 

[Dave P.]

There you go 100 percent of a round pizza in a square box cut into circular segments,
It will soon be 100 percent gone!

 

[eveled]

Well, I have to take issue with you there. There can be no more parts per hundred than 100. If during a survey twenty five people out of every one hundred express an opinion one way, then twenty five percent of the people have been in favor of that question.

If one has 150 pieces and twenty five pieces are defective, then appx. 17% are defective. That equates to 17 out of every 100. You cannot have more that 100 % of anything.

Again, per cent means per hundred.


Bob Wright

I’ll try again then we can agree to disagree.

If you have a case of 100 widgets. The case is the whole. You have 100%.

If you only have 75 widgets you have 75% OF A BOX.

if you have 150 widgets you now have 150% OF A BOX.

The key is you are using the box quantity as the whole.

It is a different thing to say you have 100% of the widgets. Than it is to say you have 100% of a box of widgets.

 

[txramfan]

Airlines regularly book more seats for a flight than the capacity of the plane. I don't know if they book 110% of capacity or 102% or what the magic number they use to fill every seat. I know I'm not the only one who has seen a person with a paid confirmed ticket not get on because the airline booked more than 100% of capacity.

I've been offered money to give up a seat on more than one over sold flight by AA.

 

[Bob Wright]

It depends how you look at it.

If you have a whole pizza, that’s 100%. If I give you my leftover 1/2 of a pizza. You now have 150% of a pizza. Which is only 75% of 2 pizzas.

I do agree you can’t give more 100% effort. As @Dave P. ’s coach pointed out, if you’re still alive you didn’t give 100%

Let's try again. You have 100% of a whole, and 100% of a half pizza. If you consider the sum total of one pizza plus the total of a half pizza to be 100%, then the half pizza represents 33 1/3% of your total pizza possession, you whole pizza is now 66 2/3%.

Bob Wright

I’ll try again then we can agree to disagree.

If you have a case of 100 widgets. The case is the whole. You have 100%.

If you only have 75 widgets you have 75% OF A BOX.

if you have 150 widgets you now have 150% OF A BOX.

The key is you are using the box quantity as the whole.

It is a different thing to say you have 100% of the widgets. Than it is to say you have 100% of a box of widgets.

Sorry, but you're comparing apples to oranges. Widgets and boxes are two different items. You cannot have more than 100% of anything! You're saying, in effect, that you would have 150 widgets per 100 widgets. Remember per cent is per hundred of anyone thing.

 

[eveled]

Bob I totally get what you are saying. If I asked you how many of the widgets in the box are red? Then it can never be over 100%

Consider this:

If I gave you 2 boxes that were 15% full. If you added them together. You would have 1 box that is 30% full. Agreed?

If I gave you 10 boxes that were 15% full. How many do you have now?

1.5 boxes expressed as a percentage its 150%. You have 150% of a box. We still don’t know how many were in a full box, but you have 150% of that number.

If I understand your way of thinking, you can add percentages together until you get 100% Then the more you add it stays 100%
Which is ok if you still want to know how many out of 100 are red.

But not ok if you just need to know how many widget are left for the next job.

Consider this:

A percentage is a ratio.
4:1 ratio. Would become 400%.

 

[eveled]

Bob what you are saying is not untrue. “You cannot have more than 100% of something.” Is absolutely correct

But mathematically it is possible to have a percentage that is greater than 100%

Its sort of like the principle of negative numbers.

Physically it’s impossible to have less than 0 of something. The box can only be so empty.

Yet mathematically we have negative numbers.

 

[Johnny-Baseball]

You do not cut pizza into triangles, unless you further trim the slice.

It is cut into circular segments.

As to the square box, it is easier to make a folding lid on a square or rectangular box that on a circular one.

Bob Wright

Hmmm...my Jr. High School (in Texas) geometry teacher taught me that pie r squared, and cornbread r round.

 

[XP100]

I guess for the same reason that you drive on a parkway and park in the driveway.

and why people say they get on the plane, hell if I was going to fly I would get IN the plane.

 

[Bob Wright]

and why people say they get on the plane, hell if I was going to fly I would get IN the plane.

Actually, that is a short form for saying "git on board." This means to get aboard train, ship, boat, or airplane.

And remember hearing the conductor's loud call of "'Boarrrrd?" He would swing his lantern, pick up that little step stool, and climb aboard, and the train would ease out of the station.

Bob Wright

 

[Bob Wright]

"But mathematically it is possible to have a percentage that is greater than 100%"

So you're saying that, mathematically, it is possible to have 125 parts of something per one hundred items?

And:

"Physically it's impossible to have less than 0 of something. The box can only be so empty."

You haven't seen my bank statement.


Bob Wright