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Johnnu2

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It's hard to believe, but over the many, many decades of buying/selling/shooting, I never fired a honest-to-God factory .44 Magnum round. I owned many S&W Mod.29's but just passed them thru for the money I could make on them. During my 'macho years', I found a hot loaded Ruger OM 45Colt could push a (250 gr.) jacketed bullet 1300fps, so I figured, who needs anything else. Truth be told, I never needed that either, but I still own it. Fast forward to last year (IIRC), I bought my OM FT (7 1/2" bbl) in 44 Mag. I hand load so we've been able to enjoy each other in "our" senior years. Then, last Sept. I got a birthday present of some factory (Fiocchi) 44 Mag. ammo, and this past Tuesday, fired off my first 5 rounds of the big (to me) boomers just so I could experience the recoil of the round formerly known as the most powerful (handgun) in the world (I paraphrased Clint). I was actually able to hit my 25 yd. 'slow fire' target shooting off hand and standing (to be sure I didn't hurt myself). Probably will never fire the rest of that box (although, one never knows, do one?). Overall, it was a good experience that was long overdue. I'm happy...!!

J.
 
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KIR

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Greetings from Sparks, NV. Good shootin' to ya and STAY SAFE!
 

larry8

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Took my redhawk to the range with a box of 44 cal. I figured the kick would be rather stout, but when I shot it the kick nearly knocked me backwards out of the shooting stall. Needless to say I'll keep that gun as a safe queen.
 
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Nothing wrong with shooting factory 44 magnum ammo. Even though I am set up to reload 44 mag, I have mostly shot factory 44 mag rounds of various flavors for the last 44 years (see what I did there ;) ). I shoot a lot of .44 mag. Next to .22 and .45 it's probably my 3rd most used round of late with 5.56 (and at one time .30 carbine) vying for that spot.

IMHO, the old Ruger Super Blackhawk 44 mag with the 7.5" barrel is still the easiest handling, best shooting .44 mag out there.
 

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"Took my redhawk to the range with a box of 44 cal. I figured the kick would be rather stout, but when I shot it the kick nearly knocked me backwards out of the shooting stall. Needless to say I'll keep that gun as a safe queen."

While I fully understand this statement,, as an instructor,, I feel a bit frustrated when I see or hear such comments.

Why?

Because when a person is given proper instruction on HOW to shoot a heavy recoiling handgun,, it can be nothing like what is shared here. I have had 10-11 year old kids, and 80ish year old ladies who have been able to shoot a .44 mag w/o those kinds of results.

Now,, before larry8 & maybe others say I'm wrong or anything,, I'll also say I've had some folks who try it,, with proper instruction, and still prefer to not shoot them anymore. But they don't get "nearly knocked out of the stall" either.

What I have seen all too often is people trying to shoot something without proper instruction, that have a poor stance, poor gripping method, wrong grips, (size or shape) wrong arm position, or such that it does cause a bad experience. Even when they expect recoil or such,, (and this can contribute to the response as well,) if approached wrongly,, can cause issues.

My point to my reply here is MAYBE,,, just MAYBE a better result could be achieved if a person is unfamiliar with something,, for them to get proper instruction before attempting something.

I'm not trying to be offensive,, just adding a lot of years experiences to be put forth.
 
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Shamus2022

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When I bought my first Blackhawk (SN 23xx) in 1957 it came with a box of truly original .44 factory rounds....Winchester 240 gr Lubaloy advertised as over 1500 fps. Only 3 rds fired. I fired 2 more and used the rest making bets and money with the uninitiated. I still have the empty box and the gun. Absolute wrist breakers. I soon learned to reload Keith bullets to 1100 fps and call it a day... and 99% of my shooting has been with assorted Specials and Russians. I have shot just about everything here (in VT) and have found even Russians at 770 fps and Specials at 900 fps to be more than adequate. Made a lot of money betting no one could put 5 rds on the paper at 25 yds with those Lubaloys.
 
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I've been shooting .44 magnums since 1976, and I'm not sure that I've ever fired a factory load. Fairly sure I have not, if I did it was something someone gave me. Certain I've never bought a box of .44 mag factory ammo. I have fired thousands of rounds of factory equivalent handloads, including Elmer's 22 grs of 2400, but in recent years have backed that down to 20.5 grains. That still runs over 1200 fps out of my 6.5" model 29 or 7.5" flattop. Enough.
 

larry8

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Well I'm a lightweight and have been shooting guns for the last 40 years. It's just a little too powerful a round for me to handle.
 

NC FNS

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I generally shoot bunny-fart reloads, but some of the biggest smiles I've ever seen came right after someone's first shot with factory or very warmly reloaded .44 mag…. I always keep some factory loads around just for that purpose.
 

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"Well I'm a lightweight and have been shooting guns for the last 40 years. It's just a little too powerful a round for me to handle."

Understood.

And you have a valid point. Many people just don't care for,, or feel comfortable with shooting more powerful ammo.

But I've also seen quite a few who had a wrong grip, posture or whatever that caused more felt recoil than necessary. Without seeing you shoot,, I can NOT say that's why a .44 mag about knocked you out of the stall. I was just trying to point out that improper shooting techniques can cause issues,,that can be avoided. Don't want anyone hurt by such stuff.

Your posting brought to mind the idiots who put a .44 mag in the hands of a new, young, female, or whatever type w/o proper instruction,, and laugh when it kicks the fire outta them. Heck,, even my own Miss Penny had a bad experience when her 1st hubby had her shoot a gun that kicked her hard. So,, when she finally got around to asking me to teach her to shoot,, we went slow,, using very mild .38's (her demand,, as she was scared of "magnum" anything,) in a Security-Six .357 mag. After several sessions,, and she discovered she could shoot,, and got her posture, stance, gripping, sight alignment, trigger control etc all doing good,, I slipped in a .357 mag round. She fired a couple of 38's, fired the magnum, then fired another .38. She stopped & said; "Hey,, one of those sounded funny!" I smiled & said,, "You didn't feel anything different?" She said,, well, I don't think so. I informed her of how one round was an actual .357 Mag. She realized her fear was unfounded, and asked me to load up some more. Before I did,, I explained how proper instruction & training up to that point had mitigated felt recoil. She realized how her idiot ex-hubby had once again, treated her badly.

Bad habits, such as improper gripping, bad stance, poor posture, improper fit of a gun, poor trigger control, all can have a negative effect. And even worse,, if you have a bad habit AND spend a lot of time duplicating that bad technique,, you develop a motor memory skill that is hard to re-train your brain against. Ask me how I know,,,,,,! ☹️

My posting is not directed at larry8,, but mostly hoping to help anybody who may feel they can't handle heavier recoiling handguns etc,, or even worse,, have a bad experience & wish to overcome it. Just pointing out that anyone can have issues,, but most can be overcome.
 

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Shot Many rounds from my S&W Trail Boss 44 Mag. Factory or my reloads were stout. Recoil was more than managable. saving the reloads I have hoping powder prices come down. I have about 6000 primers and several hundred bullets + a mold and lots of lead if I need it.
 

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