Fingerprinting our kids.

[mjpchief]

Just seen on the news out of Evansville, Ind. that the schools are working on a system to use kids fingerprints for them to get their lunch. "They" say it is easier than trying to get the kids to remember their lunch ID number. The kids will run their fingers across a scanner to get their lunch. How about the teachers try a little harder to teach the kids to remember their number.

Maybe I'm getting closer to needing a tinfoil hat but I don't like fingerprinting grade school kids. Just another step toward the implanted capsule for ID purposes.

 

[CGDustDevil]

Growing up in the 1950s, we kids were fingerprinted in school. Didn't think much about it in those days in the heat of the cold war. (The supposed reason for fingerprinting was due to our proximity to Dow AFB, a Nuclear force.) In the event of annihilation I was told some years later, they'd have fingerprints and dental records to identify the dead.

In this day and age, I would offer whatever resistance was necessary to prevent my child from being fingerprinted. Nor would I allow any DNA to be taken.

 

[SAJohn]

Also, all kids now have to have a social security number. Next thing coming will probably will not only be the finger prints but will include retina scan, DNA sample, social security number, and an ID implant chip (with must include race and religion) within an hour of birth. Welcome to the new world of computers which makes all of this practical to implement.

 

[RSIno1]

I don't have a problem with this as long as they also use the system to register and check voters.

 

[Poco Oso]

In my school days, we just bought lunch tickets (Just like going to the movies). Worked real good and no numbers to remember, no government involved.

 

[gramps]

In my school days, we just bought lunch tickets (Just like going to the movies). Worked real good and no numbers to remember, no government involved.

Yep! Kids need to learn responsibility, and accountability.
gramps

 

[SamV]

When I was in college, we had a index size card with our meal plan on it. The dorm cafeteria kept everyone's card in a little file box. When you went in the cafeteria, you would show your college ID or drivers license, and they would pull the index card and hole punch your meal ticket. I remember that the staff usually had the whole dorm memorized within a couple of weeks. They could identify several hundred students every meal without asking for ID. No fingerprint needed, or anything else. It was called getting to know each other. A smile and a friendly greeting was expected from all parties.

 

[Gator89]

I remember lunch costing 35 cents in elementary school, I paid cash.

My mother gave me the coinage needed every day.

 

[H.H. Hipshot]

I went through school in the 1950's. My mom would give me $1.25 on Monday for lunches during the week. Our school lunches were 25 cents, so a quarter given to the cashier worked.
Back then, we were served whatever crops the gov't was subsidizing at the time. We might have corn and beans for a week and then potatoes and carrots the next. All of us kids survived and I can't remember any cases of malnutrition.
I never saw or ate a pizza till I went off to college.
HHH

 

[toysoldier]

If your child disappeared, you might be wishing you had fingerprints to give to the police.

 

[vito]

I started school in the late 1940's, and WWII was still very fresh in everyone's minds. All of us were fingerprinted, and I don't recall anyone, parents or children, being concerned. Of course, that was in the days when we trusted our government. I also remember in 1st or 2nd grade having a teacher who instructed all of the boys to practice writing with their non-dominant hand. She said that some of us would grow up to serve as soldiers and might lose our writing hand, and being able to write with the other hand would be a worthwhile and useful skill. It made a lot of sense to me and my friends, but I recall that many parents, mine included, were really upset and made the teacher end this lesson.

Ultimately we need to really get the illegal immigration issue under control. Even with secure borders we have the challenge of people overstaying their visa period. Having a national I.D. card, which would be facilitated if every citizen were fingerprinted, would go a long way to making life for the illegal immigrant extremely difficult as well as insuring that our voting rolls were kept honest.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

In this day and age, I would offer whatever resistance was necessary to prevent my child from being fingerprinted. Nor would I allow any DNA to be taken.

Pretty good chance the kids' DNA is already being taken at birth. Recent thread has info . . .

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=262739&hilit=dna

I was not aware of this, either.

:roll:

 

[Montelores]

If your child disappeared, you might be wishing you had fingerprints to give to the police.

So the school district should institute a lunch fingerprinting program so possible missing children might be identified?

Makes sense.

:wink:

And aren't children attending school to learn to "remember?"

Monty

 

[Ale-8(1)]

Having a national I.D. card, which would be facilitated if every citizen were fingerprinted, would go a long way to making life for the illegal immigrant extremely difficult as well as insuring that our voting rolls were kept honest.

. . . as well as creating yet another federal database for the gummint to use to keep track of us.

Same for the "school lunch fingerprinting" proposal.

Yet another case where we wonder if the theoretical benefit outweighs the likely misuse of a well-intended program.

The implant chips seem more and more likely.

JMHO

 

[toysoldier]

Given that bullying in the school has not been reduced, maybe even facilitated, having a secure way for a child to get his or her lunch doesn't seem like a bad idea. A bully can take money, or force a kid to give a number, but not a fingerprint.

 

[Jeepnik]

Now days most places print kids when born. I guess the old foot print isn't good enough anymore.

Me, the first time I was printed was when I enlisted in the USAF. Got a top secret clearance. After that it really didn't matter if I was printed by anyone else.

Now for the fun part. Over the last few years I've needed to be printed to gain access to prisons (no not as a resident) and military bases. They are all now using the fancy finger print scanners. Guess what, they can't scan my prints. Years of working with my hands and exposure to various chemicals have literally erased my prints.

At Camp Pendleton they became so frustrated their wonder machine didn't work they had to get someone in to print me with ink and paper. No matter how had he tried all he got were blobs. Finally gave up and called the blobs my prints.

 

[Galaxiedan]

My kids school uses there ID card. Every year every student gets a picture ID with a strip on the back like a credit card its given with a lanyard for them to wear. They swipe it for lunch, they swipe it for library use, and if they have access to more secure areas in the school (art dept, music room, etc) they can swipe it to unlock the doors.

 

[SR1911SHOOTER]

Also, all kids now have to have a social security number. Next thing coming will probably will not only be the finger prints but will include retina scan, DNA sample, social security number, and an ID implant chip (with must include race and religion) within an hour of birth. Welcome to the new world of computers which makes all of this practical to implement.

SAjohn,
No, welcome to the world of domination. We, or rather our ancestors will be
monitored and spy upon continuously. 1984 just got delayed 23 years.
Blackie

 

[caryc]

If your child disappeared, you might be wishing you had fingerprints to give to the police.

So, what's stopping you from taking your own kids finger prints and keeping them in a safe place?

 

[roylt]

I have my kids prints for sure. Now a days it isn't only the criminals but ex's too you need to worry about.

Sad to type but true none the less.

God bless America, please.