clayflingythingy":q0kja6ek said:
mike-h,
The LG-405 and the LG411 for the LCR are made exactly the same as far as I can tell. Hard synthetic grip panels with a rubber overmold back and front strap.
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Produc ... fault.aspx
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Produc ... fault.aspx
Clay - - my info disagrees with that assessment. Please correct if I am wrong, but here goes;
1. CT makes several models for the SW J frame revolvers
1a. CT model # 405 Comfortable Rubber Overmold - - which you mentioned. Note. that model is not partially Polymer (synthetic), its material is stated as 100% 'Rubber overmold' (
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Produc ... fault.aspx)
1b. The other CT model for SW J frames is CT's model # 105, a fully synthetic model - no rubber. (
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Produc ... fault.aspx)
2. For the LCR CT makes just one model, # LG 411 as you mentioned. But, the material for that grip is NOT 100% rubber over mold, the material is stated as 'Hard Polymer Sides, Rubber Overmolded Activation & Backstrap'. I have seen that model and the sides are pure synthetic, no rubber to well-cushion hands (like my wife's) from recoil. And, that is the only model CT makes for the LCR. (
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Produc ... fault.aspx)
So - - CT makes a fully rubber overmold grip for the SW J frames, as well as a synthetic grip. But, for the LCR it does not make a fully rubber overmold grip, meaning the LCR grip is inferior regarding recoil cusioning to the better SW grip.
3. While we are at this - - I note CT does make for the Ruger SP 101 two different grip models of different quality:
3a. a fully rubber overmold grip (model # 303 -http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Products/Ruger/LG303/tabid/225/Default.aspx). That model can cushion hands from recoil bite perhaps better than the Ruger standard all polymer grip, but no where near as good as cusioning provided if you replace the Ruger standard with the one Hogue designed for the SP101.
3b. for the SP 101 CT also makes a lower quality a grip of hard polymer (model # 111 - (
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Produc ... fault.aspx)
Bottom-line: Last month I wrote this email to CT :
From: Michael
Received: 12/30/2009 2:47 PM
To: Customer Email; Customer Email
Subject: CT for Ruger LCR - - fully (instead of partial) rubber overmolded coming ?
Hello Crimson Trace,
I am planning to purchase several Ruger LCR revolvers and I am most concerned that if I put your Laser grips on to replace the nice Ruger factory Hogue grips that come standard with their LCR revolver, which amazingly absorb and deaden recoil hurt to female hands, your own replacement grips might be much less recoil absorbing - - since I note your web site states for the LCR Model # 411 and that site
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Produc ... fault.aspx states the material as > "Rugged Hard Polymer Sides, Rubber Overmolded Activation & Backstrap".
This tells me that the material you use for your own laser grip for the LCR is not 100% rubber overmold as is your model LG 303 for the Ruger SP 101 per its site
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Produc ... fault.aspx which simply states "Comfortable Rubber Overmold".
I note for the Smith & Wesson J-Frames (like SW 642 model which competes directly with Ruger's LCR) your web site offers several types of CT grips, including #405 which, like for the SP 101 states, "Comfortable Rubber Overmold"
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Produc ... fault.aspx
Several ladies like the Ruger LCR much more than the SW 642, and they like the LCR because of the great shock absorbing standarad rubber grip that comes from Ruger with that revolver. They would be interested in laser grips ONLY if they can be assured that your grips would be at least as good at shock absorbing to protect hands from recoil as is the standard Ruger grip that they like.
Please tell me if you are developing soon for release a fully rubber overmolded grip for the Ruger LCR, like available for other guns - - instead of only overmoded at activation and back strap - - and when might that release date occur.
Thanks much
CT's reply >
Dear Michael
As of right now I do not know of anything in the process of being released. Have a wonderful day!
If we can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to let us know!
Best regards,
Brittnie Chadwick
Crimson Trace Corporation
9780 SW Freeman Dr
Wilsonville, OR 97070
800-442-2406
Sorry for the length, but I hope this help clarify - - at least my understanding.
In the meantime, I await the day CT announces full rubber overmold model for the LCR - - and then I will be a buyer - - provided, of course, its recoil protection for my wife is at least as good as the very good Hogue grip Ruger puts on the LCR at the factory.