Electric vs Electrified

[Captain America]

Today we had a meeting to discuss Chrysler’s plans to be fully electric by 2035 to comply with the lefts green agenda. It seems as though the federal government defines any hybrid vehicle as “electrified” which meets their criteria. To put this into perspective the RAM Truck’s E-Torque system qualifies, that means that a truck that runs on gasoline 100% of the time qualifies as what the media is calling “electric”. Your gonna see some cool stuff that falls into this category when it comes to super cars, imagine a Vette with a 600 hp engine and a transmission with an electric drive unit inside that adds 400 hp to it. It’ll sound and feel like a V8 but have monster rear wheel horsepower and get decent fuel mileage. The media is not telling the full story when it comes to electrification but it looks like full electric will remain a niche market if they even survive.

 

[Captain America]

One thing I forgot, a hilarious option will be available on the RAM Revolution EV truck. It will come with 300 miles max range...but...you can get a 500 mile max range option...it will include a gasoline generator to extend range...now that's funny 😂 😂 😂

 

[woodsy]

I want to see the towing range of a half-ton pickup, fully electric, pulling a 6,000 pound travel trailer. 50 miles?

 

[The Norseman]

I'd like one, but get a hold of me when batteries go
1000 miles on a charge in -30 degree weather in the
dead of winter, and be able to recharge the battery
in 15 minutes after checking on the cattle or
driving across the State. Also the Company
has to take ownership of the worn out battery.

Plus I don't think our economy is doing to bad if people
can pluck down $80,000+ for an Electric Vehicle.

 

[Robb Barnes]

I tell my wife the same thing about e trucks. When they have one I can hook the three horse trailer behind with mules and gear then drive across the state for a November cow elk hunt from our end of road camp then back home without stopping who knows how many times to recharge, I will look at one. Until then, they are not in the table for my use.

 

[Watertender]

Try electrifying one of these.... Another hospital in the system I work for has been told that they have to replace any boilers with a 100% electric replacement. The grid is not able to support what is there now not to mention the added load. This is a 50 year old 500 horsepower dual fuel boiler using natural gas or #2 fuel oil. The generators for the hospital are 5 diesel units with a combined KW of 2600. A local school district purchased 3 new electric school busses and found out that on a 0° degree day that they are unable to complete 1 run not to mention the 2 or more runs that a bus might be required to do in a day. I seriously wonder what these politicians are thinking with because they sure don't have a brain...

 

[Fox Mike]

Like to see one take me from home to the Cape Cod house without a charge (413 miles). Forget about my place to Contenders (530 miles roughly). I like to drive at night and fly low. Can't do that electrically. I don't want to have to find a charging port in the dark.

 

[Kevin]

Same here. I do really want an electric vehicle, but they have to go further than the 300 miles (on average) they do now.

If I could get 500 miles per charge then I’d love one. Right now my truck can go 800 miles on a tank of diesel.

 

[Mobuck]

We don't see many EV's in farm country. I have seen a couple in the nearest bigger town/smallish city--they have a college there so all the liberal college prof's may get onboard the EV train.

 

[RSIno1]

The E-Ray is here but they put the electric motors on the front wheels -

A friend works at a Ford dealer. They have 16 full electric F150 Lightnings in stock. ZERO buyers. They took one to auction just to reduce inventory. They dropped the price to 62 grand from the 100+ thousand retail sticker - no takers. I suggested they sell it for retail and throw a 20,000 Maverick in for free - they haven't sold one of those yet for under 40.

I've heard the Dukes will be back in an EV soon....

 

[blume357]

I really like the Hybrid Ford Fusion my wife bought... the technology is really cool. but then my wife keeps calling it an electric car and I have to keep reminding her it actually runs on gas that then charges the semi-big battery that runs the electric engine most of the time while in town... it does get 42mpg constantly... But I do wonder how we are going to deal with the ever increasing demand for electricity... but you know the answer is we will figure it out.... this is America...

Oh, one of the funny things is even with the battery charged in the Winter if you turn on the heat the gas engine has to run at least on and off some.
I wonder how one gets heat in a totally electric car... I guess there is either electric strip heating or maybe they have a heat pump built in... like a mini-mini split?

 

[79_Scout_Deuce]

I want to see the towing range of a half-ton pickup, fully electric, pulling a 6,000 pound travel trailer. 50 miles?

Not even that for the new Ford Lightning

 

[Captain America]

I want to see the towing range of a half-ton pickup, fully electric, pulling a 6,000 pound travel trailer. 50 miles?

The Lightning towing capability is well documented, towing cuts about 50% of your range, cold weather can take another 20%...those trucks are useless when being used as trucks.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

I am no expert but this is common knowledge. Electric vehicles are much cleaner and that is the point. 70% of CO2 in the US is produced by vehicles. Transition to electric vehicles will be pretty easy for power companies because most charging is done during off peak hours. If you don't like or want an electric vehicle you don't have to get one.

Just like with solar for your home it is going to happen and you can participate or not.

 

[kickingandscreaming]

One thing I forgot, a hilarious option will be available on the RAM Revolution EV truck. It will come with 300 miles max range...but...you can get a 500 mile max range option...it will include a gasoline generator to extend range...now that's funny 😂 😂 😂

Didn’t Carol Shelby have a design for a vehicle that used a drive system like a railroad locomotive? A small gasoline generator producing power to run a traction motor? As I recall, fuel economy was outrageous for the time.

 

[Captain America]

I am no expert but this is common knowledge. Electric vehicles are much cleaner and that is the point. 70% of CO2 in the US is produced by vehicles. Transition to electric vehicles will be pretty easy for power companies because most charging is done during off peak hours. If you don't like or want an electric vehicle you don't have to get one.

Just like with solar for your home it is going to happen and you can participate or not.

$42,000 to put solar and a power wall on my home, my average electric bill is $75 a month so the system would break even at the 47 year mark. A full EV that would replace my PZEV SUV would cost me $25,000 extra up front and an extra $800 per year to operate(oil changes and gasoline included), plus a PZEV is far better for the environment that any BEV. Do your research, you need to know what a BEV, PHEV, HEV, and PZEV are before you can talk about environmental impact. The point of this thread is that it IS going to happen, just not the way most people think. Remember in the original post, according to the new standards a RAM truck with the E-Torque system qualifies as an electric vehicle even though it runs on gasoline 100% of the time, I don't see BEVs ever being more than 2% of the cars on the road, if they don't solve the battery replacement cost problem they will go away completely.

 

[jdavis]

The current EV technology isn’t up to the tasks required by working vehicles. This is easy to see as most have pointed out with EV pickup trucks. While the effect on the civilian population is more of a nuisance, the real problem will be trying to electrify agricultural equipment and military equipment. Farmers run tractors, combines, and other equipment many hours per day with little time for recharging which will slow down production. Less production means fewer products sent to market.. The effect on military equipment will create a host of problems due to the heavy demands required, hours of use required and recharging logistics. The effect could be devastating, particularly so, if our adversaries are not bound by the restraints of EV power. I believe that the U.S government’s rush to mandate it’s green agenda is costly, premature and possibly dangerous.

 

[Watertender]

Politicians figure that they will legislate mandatory change to all electric homes and vehicles and the technology will catch up. It reminds me of the old adage.... crap in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up faster. Electric farm and military equipment makes absolutely no sense at all. Perpetual motion anyone?

 

[4896worker]

our local ford dealer is shutting down . Ford told them they would have to sell X amount of electric vehicle or pay a 3million dollar penalty . To ford the owner said he could not do it . Closing the doors in 2 weeks

 

[Colonialgirl]

Heard a Tesla pull out of a parking space--
WHINE WHINE WHINE WHINE as it drove away.