Does anyone mfg a 2 or 3x PRISM w/ eye relief for a 10/22 TD barrel mount?

[ClassicAmerican]

Scope Search:
Is anyone aware of a 2 or 3x PRISM w/ eye relief sufficient for a TD barrel mount?

Application:
Small game hunting at 50-100m

Why Prism (in lieu of 1x red dot)?
2nd Law of Thermodynamics applied to, eyes.

Why Magnified?
Consistent, clean 10/22TD small game kills at 100m w/ 1x & low light, is pushing it.

Why barrel mount?
TD Barrels are made to move.

The Primary Arms SLx 3x looked ideal save the 2.7" eye relief. (Yes, I realize that the PA's are from TexaChina, but they
are good dudes & hope they move mfg to TX.)

Many Thanks!

 

[Mobuck]

The two brands of 'prism' sights I have are limited eye relief--similar to a typical rifle scope. Probably not going to work with the forward location.

 

[ClassicAmerican]

Thanks, Mobuck.

 

[Mobuck]

I do have an AimPoint 2X that has unlimited eye relief but as with other 'dot' optics, it doesn't offer the advantage of the 'etched' reticle for use unilluminated.
And FWIW, my experience with Primary Arms optics has been good.

 

[Hankus]

Following… I bought a TD barrel mount like yours and picked up a Vortex Sparc II for it (really cheap) but haven't mounted it or tried it out yet.

 

[kmoore]

Just some information. I purchased a TD SS 10-22 about 1.5 years ago. I like scopes and magnification. I got a rimfire 2x7 vortex. Mounted it on the receiver base. I tested it at the range, by sighting it in, then firing groups of 5 at 25 yards. I removed the barrel let it cool a few minutes and fired another group. I also fired fast removed barrel, replaced it and continued. 5 groups of 5 shots and there was NO change of impact. CCI mini mags. The barrel nut never loosened. As the manual says tighten it up, keep it tight. It is still tight.
Point is mounting scopes or aiming devices on barrel or receiver, at least my tests proved on receiver they will not be any shift of impact taking rifle apart between shooting secessions. Where you mount you're aiming devices is more of a personal choice not a reason to lose impact.
I had a salesman tell me he sold his TD since it wouldn't hold a zero. Why his wouldn't, maybe he was shooting different ammo types each range time, let barrel nut get loose or is just a lousy shot.

 

[s4s4u]

A prism has eye relief limitations same as a typical scope. I have read that the PA 1x prism has long eye relief, and is also useable with a magnifier so that might have possibilities. I have always shy'd away from PA prisms because of their ^ reticle, but they are coming out with some other reticle options so might be worth another look.

 

[ClassicAmerican]

I do have an AimPoint 2X that has unlimited eye relief but as with other 'dot' optics, it doesn't offer the advantage of the 'etched' reticle for use unilluminated.
And FWIW, my experience with Primary Arms optics has been good.

Thanks, Which model is that? https://aimpoint.us/product-selection-tool/

 

[ClassicAmerican]

Just some information. I purchased a TD SS 10-22 about 1.5 years ago. I like scopes and magnification. I got a rimfire 2x7 vortex. Mounted it on the receiver base. I tested it at the range, by sighting it in, then firing groups of 5 at 25 yards. I removed the barrel let it cool a few minutes and fired another group. I also fired fast removed barrel, replaced it and continued. 5 groups of 5 shots and there was NO change of impact. CCI mini mags. The barrel nut never loosened. As the manual says tighten it up, keep it tight. It is still tight.
Point is mounting scopes or aiming devices on barrel or receiver, at least my tests proved on receiver they will not be any shift of impact taking rifle apart between shooting secessions. Where you mount you're aiming devices is more of a personal choice not a reason to lose impact.
I had a salesman tell me he sold his TD since it wouldn't hold a zero. Why his wouldn't, maybe he was shooting different ammo types each range time, let barrel nut get loose or is just a lousy shot.

Thanks, kmore. that is helpful as it gets to heart of the matter. My intent w/ barrel mounting is based on the perception that zero will change on a TD. If that's not the case, I'd prefer to run a receiver mount.

Accuracy Goal is for consistent clean kills (rabbits, etc) @ 75-100m on the Ruger TD.

 

[ClassicAmerican]

A prism has eye relief limitations same as a typical scope. I have read that the PA 1x prism has long eye relief, and is also useable with a magnifier so that might have possibilities. I have always shy'd away from PA prisms because of their ^ reticle, but they are coming out with some other reticle options so might be worth another look.

I have the PA SLx 1x for my 9mm PCC and like it, clear, bright, large FOV. But, I like the ACSS reticle.

 

[Mobuck]

"Thanks, Which model is that?"
Model 9000SC-2x 2MOA
My bad. Sorry. Apparently no longer made?

 

[Hawk-in-Wi]

maybe something in this bunch

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[Mobuck]

Just my opinion but: be careful choosing one of the 'kitchen sink' reticles. Unless, you only shoot at targets on the range, all that STUFF seems great UNTIL you actually try to aim with it. Then all that STUFF gets really confusing.

 

[1gunsnotenough]

I do have an AimPoint 2X that has unlimited eye relief but as with other 'dot' optics, it doesn't offer the advantage of the 'etched' reticle for use unilluminated.
And FWIW, my experience with Primary Arms optics has been good.

I have a bit of a stigmatism so I use the Vortex Vipers and Spitfires on all my rifles as they have an etched reticle. I use them unilluminated. I don;t understand why more manufactures do not offer etched reticles.

 

[ClassicAmerican]

Just some information. I purchased a TD SS 10-22 about 1.5 years ago. I like scopes and magnification. I got a rimfire 2x7 vortex. Mounted it on the receiver base. I tested it at the range, by sighting it in, then firing groups of 5 at 25 yards. I removed the barrel let it cool a few minutes and fired another group. I also fired fast removed barrel, replaced it and continued. 5 groups of 5 shots and there was NO change of impact. CCI mini mags. The barrel nut never loosened. As the manual says tighten it up, keep it tight. It is still tight.
Point is mounting scopes or aiming devices on barrel or receiver, at least my tests proved on receiver they will not be any shift of impact taking rifle apart between shooting secessions. Where you mount you're aiming devices is more of a personal choice not a reason to lose impact.
I had a salesman tell me he sold his TD since it wouldn't hold a zero. Why his wouldn't, maybe he was shooting different ammo types each range time, let barrel nut get loose or is just a lousy shot.

I ordered the PA 3x MicroPrism & plan to see how it goes w/ receiver mount.