Do you value your dog's life over that of a total stranger?

Some of the sweetest dogs I have ever seen were Pit Bulls.

I've come across more sweet Pits (and mixes which more often what people say are "Pit Bulls"), than aggressive but have seen some that were pure neglected demons. Mostly Pit mixes. Most people don't know the difference between a American Pure Bred Pit Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Terrier, Cane Corso, mixes or especially the "bully" breeds. They are all lumped into "Pit Bulls" by those who don't know. In the same manner as the media thinks all handguns are Glocks and all rifles are AR15s.

During my Wife's career as a Animal Control Officer she handled a ton of bite reports and "attacks". A couple times it was covered by the local news. One time the segment came on about an aggressive dog attacking people in an apartment complex and there was a picture of a "Bully dog mix" on screen behind the reporter with "Dog Attack" displayed underneath. Of course it was the most demonizing pic they could probably find. with teeth and studded collar. The actual dog in the attack was far from a "Pit Bull". It was a Blue Heeler (ACD). Another of her cases people were reporting that their chickens were being mauled/killed. Most of them blamed the neighbor who owned a Pit mix. Turned out to be a matted up stray Golden Retriever. It was the only dog she had that broke a catch pole. It was euthanized in short order.
 
I think there is a certain type of person who chooses a pit bull specifically because they are seen as aggressive, dangerous animals. If you live somewhere that justifies having a dangerous animal with you, to ward off potential attackers or to actually aid in your defense, then it makes some sense. But for others it seems that the person feels a need to project this aggressiveness , maybe thinking that this is a postive attribute. Over the years I have attended a fair number of dog training classes, usually when my dog was a puppy and needed basic obedience training. Almost invariably when there was a pit bull in the class the owner was of a certain racial group, and it seemed pretty clear that the owner wanted to project that aggressiveness to the world through the presence of their dog. This is something like the analogy of most parents wanting their child to be the nicest or the smartest in the class, but certain parents only want their child to be the toughest. Those parents likely will tend to get a pit bull if buying a dog.
 
Dog attack statistics.
 
LOTSA ANGER HERE....
just sayin'

J.
no anger here ,either. agree to disagree. i have the greatest respect for law enforcement they develop a 6th sense because of what they are exposed to. that's because lives depend on it. some might call it profiling, racism, some kind of phobia. i think it's keen awareness based on experience. please don't dump me in the same category as misinformed antigunners. i'm with the coach on this
 
Dog attack statistics.

So quick to take one thing as gospel but immediately determine another thing as ridiculous and laughable. IE: A left leaning publication puts out biased statistics on gun deaths. We are quick to jump on those as inflated facts. But on other subjects the publications are dead bang correct without question. :ROFLMAO:

Q: Is the Pit Bull The Most Dangerous Dog?

No, purebred pit bulls are not inherently the most dangerous dog breed. While they are statistically involved in a high number of dog bite incidents, particularly fatal ones, this is often due to a combination of factors including breed-specific legislation, irresponsible ownership, and the fact that "pit bull" is a broad term encompassing several breeds.

Here's a more detailed explanation:
1. Breed Stereotypes and Misconceptions:

  • The term "pit bull" is often used as a catch-all for various breeds like American Pit Bull Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, and American Staffordshire Terriers, and even mixes of these breeds.
  • These breeds, due to their historical use in fighting and guarding, have been unfairly associated with aggression and danger.
  • Many studies and articles highlight the fact that pit bulls are disproportionately involved in dog bite incidents, including fatalities. However, this doesn't mean that all pit bulls are dangerous or that they are inherently more aggressive than other breeds.


Here's a good one.....they have a pic of a Rottweiler. Perfect example people and media are clueless as to what a "Pit Bull" actually is. Seems any aggressive dog is a "Pit Bull" these days.:rolleyes:

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that's because lives depend on it. some might call it profiling, racism, some kind of phobia.

I'll go with paranoid phobia. I was told by a cop, "I have to treat you like a criminal because I don't know you." I had said "Hello" to him and he just glared at me. I asked if there was a problem and that's what he said. I responded, "I don't know you either so I have to assume that you're corrupt." He didn't like that.
 
Here's a couple of my vicious Pit Bulls.
If you are squeamish , don't look.
I also added a picture of one of my Pitts viciously attacking one of my Ridgbacks.
The Pitts are all dead now , but I wouldn't have traded them for any other dog in the world.
Then again , I would have said that about any dog I have ever had.
 

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There is a big difference between a APBT and what most people think of when they hear "Pit Bull". Which is normally a mixed breed. Lists? Go to your local ACO and ask for bite reports.

Gun lovers protect all guns. We should have fully automatics. We should have magazines of any capacity right? We should have any gun we want right? So called dog lovers say we shouldn't have certain dogs.....a bit hypocritical don't you think?

Anti "Pit Bull" people are no different than anti gun people. Read a anti "Pit Bull" article and substitute "Gun" for "Pit Bull".....same rant.

My grandkids grew up among 3 pitties and they were the most chill and loveable dogs I've ever been around when it comes to people.

Those dogs would have disagreements amongst themselves and required a loud yell to neutralize, but around those kids they were angels.

When I would come over I would get tackled and licked like a lolipop, pittie kisses.

Dogs behavior is most often the result of their "masters"
 
My dogs have been my life! I've been a Professional Dog Handler for most of my life showing client dogs of many breeds in AKC conformation dog shows all across American and Canada as well as being a successful show breeder of 165 AKC Shetland Sheepdog Champions, some of which have been worth a lot of money! Therefore my dogs have been my life! Since retirement, I've also been involved in the effort to oppose the extremist animal rights movement on a local, state and national level. Most of the extremists have been Peta supporters as well as supporters of other extremist groups and they don't always have both oars in the water! Since I've also been successful in opposing some of their idiocy, they know my name and where I live! Therefore my answer is: "Yes -- I value the lives of my dogs more than that of a total stranger!"
 
Crockett12, I have a sheep dog story....
Had a customer that I went to for years and one year they had a new little dog... thing was totally ferocious barking and snapping at me on a leash and the stupid retired college professor owner would not put him in a back room just kept him in the room with us while I worked... I should have said something but didn't. Next year I'm headed out there to do their chimney again and remember the dog and am hoping they got rid of that evil terror.... but no.. he still has it and the same thing goes on... we are done and I'm sitting across from him and the dog who is still trying to get to me... the guy tells me the dog has never bitting anyone and loves children and so I decided to find out and put my hand out and the dog lunges out and 'gums' my hand... did not even hurt.... I realized then it was one of those sheep dogs that will nip at the sheep to put them in line and it just wanted to let me know who was boss.... after it did the gum thing it was now happy and calm.

Now the next week when I tried the same thing with a neighbors dog it did not work our quite the same... I bled for 3 days.... but that did clean out the wound.
 
Do a bit of research on the subject of dogs suddenly attacking their owners, or members of their owner's family, and it becomes obvious that certain breeds are far more likely to behave this way than others. Dogs have been bred for centuries to do certain tasks, and the task of being aggressive and violent usually involves only certain breeds. I have never heard of anyone trying to breed "attack Toy Poodles" for example, so while a Toy Poodle might bite someone, it is not because that breed was selectively bred for the trait of biting people. So while most dogs do not attack, and even kill, anyone, it is denying reality to maintain that Pit Bulls, Dobermans, German Shepard Dogs, Rottweilers and some other breeds are sweet, gentle and unworthy of concern pets.

FWIW, one of my dogs is a Coton du Tulear. I have never even heard of someone, anyone, ever being bit by a dog of this breed. They were originally bred as lap dogs for the royalty of the island of Madagascar, and today have a temperment of playful docility and affection that I have never seen equaled in any other breed, other than possibly Havanese.

If you choose to own a breed that people understandably fear or are hesitant about, look to your own motivations for doing this rather than your choosing a less violently inclined breed.
 
I'm interested in knowing how many people would shoot their own dog if it attacked a total stranger. I'm certain it's an unpopular opinion but I feel if you're going to own a dog that's capable of attacking, no matter how good a family dog it is, you should also assume the responsibility of being prepared to stop an attack. Not necessarily with a gun 😳 but certainly more than a spray bottle.

I love dogs, even well-behaved pits. I'm just curious.
 
Maybe there was good reason for the attack. For me this would never be a situation I would have to face. When out in public my dogs are always leashed and I do not allow them to get close enough to strangers to ever be at risk for causing harm.
 
"Nobody needs a dog (capable) of showing aggression and (attacking) someone"

"Nobody needs a gun (capable) of holding more than 10 rounds and (attacking) someone"

Pretty sure the horse has been long dead.

Some people do need a dog capable of aggression. But that is not a reason for having such as dog as a family pet, unless you think having a dangerous animal makes you look super tough and cool!
 
I'm interested in knowing how many people would shoot their own dog if it attacked a total stranger. I'm certain it's an unpopular opinion but I feel if you're going to own a dog that's capable of attacking, no matter how good a family dog it is, you should also assume the responsibility of being prepared to stop an attack. Not necessarily with a gun 😳 but certainly more than a spray bottle.

I love dogs, even well-behaved pits. I'm just curious.
Not your particular post but I've never read a "stranger" thread than these 7 pages. Now we're being asked what we should shoot our dog with (if not a gun) if he/she attacks a total stranger. Whatever you choose make sure you don't miss and shoot the stranger. It would defeat the purpose. ;)
 
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