Complimentary PCC & Pistol

[Gary Lee]

The most consistently accurate 9x19 ammo I tested among many in my Ruger PCC and converted Glock 23 is SIG 124 grain V-Crown that I also use to reload my own ammo. It is zeroed for 25 yards.

So far I've added fiber optic sights and stainless steel trigger assembly pins to the Ruger PCC. The factory originals had a tendency to slide out during reassembly after cleaning.

 

[contender]

NICE!

I've tricked out my Ruger PCC a bit to be used in USPSA competition. A few minor additions, and it's been a real shooter. I've been using up a strong supply of Blue Bullets I have.

 

[dobegrant.45]

Have the same PCC added a sig Romeo red dot and a TANDEMKROSS bolt stop

 

[Gary Lee]

Have the same PCC added a sig Romeo red dot and a TANDEMKROSS bolt stop

I think I'm keeping TANDEMKROSS in business with orders for aftermarket replacement parts, and upgrades

 

[dobegrant.45]

I understand that, 10/22 parts, mk IV parts, s&w victory parts etc

 

[sharpblade7777]

It makes a great companion for the Glock.

 

[dobegrant.45]

Yes they do

 

[amishjeff]

I just got my PCC a couple weeks ago and can't wait to dial it in and start plinking. Blends well with my CZ.. Weather needs to hurry up and evolve..lol

 

[Rumrunner]

Both of my PC9's prefer 147 grain ammo, although they shoot well with anything I've put through them. I have a Security 9 as well, so did not convert to Glock mags.

 

[Gary Lee]

Both of my PC9's prefer 147 grain ammo, although they shoot well with anything I've put through them. I have a Security 9 as well, so did not convert to Glock mags.

I was curious about how the PCC handled 147 grain ammo. I'll test them in mine now.

 

[Gary Lee]

I tested a box of Winchester 147 grain STHP ammo alongside my favorite SIG V-Crown 124 grain JHP +P loads and while both proved to be consistently accurate at 25 to 50 yards, the Sig 124 grain V-Crown provide the tightest 25 yard groups.

I just ordered more of the SIG ammo in various weights for further testing.

Surprisingly, the most consistently accurate ammo I've tested, so far, in my scoped PCC is Fiocchi 115 grain FMJ.

 

[GasGuzzler]

My combo is backwards. P95DC and KT Sub2K. The only Glock stuff I own are the 32-round magazines for the FOLDING carbine. I got the Kel-Tec because it folds...the whole point of a pistol caliber carbine IMO. Had the picatinny mag holder 3D printed. As far as ammo, I load my own 127 grain hollow points seated long with a little over book (okay because of the extra case volume) drop of Bullseye.

 

[Armybrat]

Mine goes good with my SR9….

 

[unodemo]

I got the S2K and a M&P 2.0 for all of the above stated reasons. Same mags and same ammo sounded like a good way to go. It ultimately didn't work out for me. The S2K doesn't stand up to rapid fire (feed ramp), and it's a you-know-what to takedown and clean up. Lost spring and clips are SOP. Putting anything on the top rail negates folding it up into a bag. Putting anything on the lower rail just makes the footprint larger and heavier. And that trigger. OMG!!! Even the aftermarket triggers can't make up for what KT did to that FCG.

I kept the M&P and got an AR-9. They both run the same ammo and that's fine for me.

 

[Hvymax]

I went with the Sub2k and a Palmetto Dagger. I still haven't found a happy load for all of my 9's. Best I could get was 2 out of 3 my last loading session with 90gr Lehigh's. Best I could get with the Dagger was about 3" at 25yds with a load my Max9 EDC didn't like. The sub2K did good to great with everything I fed it. The coolest thing is that both guns, a load of mags and accessories all fit in an 18"x10"x4" pack.

 

[unodemo]

True. A multi-mag S2K and a complementary pistol can make a nice happy meal. Mine is/was the M&P S2K with a M&P 2.0 5". Then the fun really got started trying to locate what load works in *both*. It seems for me at least, they both like 124gr loads. I'd suggest some of the ammo your friends at PSA carry like the AAC 124gr fmj or the Federal Syntech Practice & Defend 124gr. Both go at ~1150fps. I hand load and got my 124gr pistol load to ~1125fps. I also had to find my M&P Goldilocks palm swell and replace the 16lb spring with a 15 pounder to get the timing right. The S2K and my 16" AR-9 deliver that same 124gr load at ~1210. 115 and 147gr loads just didn't work out. I didn't even think about 90gr Lehigh's.

If you can find an extended mag that fits both, then things can get pretty happy. I have a pair of 30rd ProMags for mine. That pair functions despite the rap ProMag takes on product quality.

And one more thing, don't worry about the 25yd distance until you get things sorted out. It's a good way to burn through ammo and still not get things lined up. Both fireams and any loads you shoot will start showing you they work or not as near as 10yds. Your targets appear to show some fundamentals are needed. Just sayin'.

I suspect a Dagger Dead On Hold at 10yds will put you in the paint.
For the S2K to have an iron sights zero at 25yds, 10yds == ~1-3/8" down and 1" high at 50yds.
Something tells me that really tall scopey thingy is throwing a monkey in the wrench. I dunno.

 

[Hvymax]

Sub2k did good to great with everything I fed it. It's favorite load was absolutely unbelievable out of my Max9 as well but the worst in the Dagger. What shot best in the Dagger was crap in the Max9.

 

[laterider7]

I think I'm keeping TANDEMKROSS in business with orders for aftermarket replacement parts, and upgrades

Thread is a bit old but curious and looking for feedback from Ruger PCC owners.
Current approach I have in mind is replace stuff when it breaks, for example bolt buffer and/or its retainer.

Thus my question, for those that see heavy use with their PCC, are some of these components actually failing/breaking requiring the upgrades?
I found myself lurking on videos that said the gun needs some internals updating or failures will be seen and/or it will shoot better but are we really seeing failures with higher round counts with these things or is it the marketing getting to us?

 

[contender]

"Both fireams and any loads you shoot will start showing you they work or not as near as 10yds."

I respectfully disagree with this comment. At 10 yds,, many guns will NOT show their true potential or failures. As a serious handgunner,, including handgun hunting for over 4 decades,, and having taken well over 100 whitetails & numerous animals with a handgun,, 10 yds is NOT the way to determine the accuracy potential of anything.
For most of the true handgunners of a more serious nature,, (IHMSA, hunters & others,) we START judging a load/firearm combo at 25 yds. After that,, we move to 50 yds or 100 yds. We look for groups, keyholeing, and overall performance. If the gun & load don't perform,, then we try different combinations.

A little over a week ago,,, I had 3 guns,, and using identical ammo,, I shot at 25 yds to check the performance in each one with that ammo. One gun,, 15 rounds, and I had a boringly tiny group measuring 1"x 1-1/2". That gun really liked that ammo. The next gun,, a totally different design,, shot a respectable 4" group of 15 rounds. The group actually measured a little under 3" except I did have 3 rounds that opened up the group. The 3rd gun,, which was also a different design,, and shooting 16 rounds,, had a shotgun looking pattern. About a 12"-14" group. About 7 of those rounds were tumbling as they hit paper. It hated that ammo.
And just for kicks,, I took that worst shooting gun, and more ammo, & shot 8 rounds at 15 yards. The group was actually about 6"x6". If I had moved closer,, I'm sure it would have appeared to be a much better shooter than it was.

What that showed me was that gun #2 may benefit from a bit of tweaking, while the 3rd gun will require a totally different loading. Gun #1,, will get more testing at 50 yds next with the same ammo.

 

[Hvymax]

"Both fireams and any loads you shoot will start showing you they work or not as near as 10yds."

I respectfully disagree with this comment. At 10 yds,, many guns will NOT show their true potential or failures. As a serious handgunner,, including handgun hunting for over 4 decades,, and having taken well over 100 whitetails & numerous animals with a handgun,, 10 yds is NOT the way to determine the accuracy potential of anything.
For most of the true handgunners of a more serious nature,, (IHMSA, hunters & others,) we START judging a load/firearm combo at 25 yds. After that,, we move to 50 yds or 100 yds. We look for groups, keyholeing, and overall performance. If the gun & load don't perform,, then we try different combinations.

A little over a week ago,,, I had 3 guns,, and using identical ammo,, I shot at 25 yds to check the performance in each one with that ammo. One gun,, 15 rounds, and I had a boringly tiny group measuring 1"x 1-1/2". That gun really liked that ammo. The next gun,, a totally different design,, shot a respectable 4" group of 15 rounds. The group actually measured a little under 3" except I did have 3 rounds that opened up the group. The 3rd gun,, which was also a different design,, and shooting 16 rounds,, had a shotgun looking pattern. About a 12"-14" group. About 7 of those rounds were tumbling as they hit paper. It hated that ammo.
And just for kicks,, I took that worst shooting gun, and more ammo, & shot 8 rounds at 15 yards. The group was actually about 6"x6". If I had moved closer,, I'm sure it would have appeared to be a much better shooter than it was.

What that showed me was that gun #2 may benefit from a bit of tweaking, while the 3rd gun will require a totally different loading. Gun #1,, will get more testing at 50 yds next with the same ammo.

I was doing the same thing a few weeks ago. It's 25yds from my picnic table to my target backer. Shooting fully rested. I was really surprised how much difference a primer could make. The other was that none of them shot well from both pistols.