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Found this posted elsewhere. Thought I'd share. If its been posted before, my apologies! :shock:

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http://www.naaminis.com/discus/messages ... 1254339781

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kimberguy2004

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I've actually seen one that was at least that bad. It was a Smith Model 25, 45LC with a double charge. It wasn't pretty..
 

tek4260

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Skalkaho Slim":3o6a8yht said:
Apparently this has been floating around the web for some time and a poster on one forum in particular stated that it was his. Ultimately, it looks like the OP was found to be someone just making up a story for his "15 minutes of fame". :roll:

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/smith- ... 629-a.html

Apparently it belongs to an Alaskan State Trooper who was trying out some new loads. :shock:

Wow there are some real nuts on that forum!!
 

Redhawk4

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I was the one who tried to post it originally on the NAA forum, I received the pics in an email. It would be interesting to know the original source of the pics, what really happened and who really fired it, as opposed to the guy on gun & game claiming it was him.


Quote from Gun&Game forum:

"That does not look good. I will have to say that the fact you are still alive is a testament to the quality of the manufacture of the handgun" what a great statement from the gun & game forum.

The quality of the manufacture of the handgun? the thing blew apart surely due to a massive over charge. What does the quality have to do with that, it seems if anyone was not hurt it would have been due to a minor miracle not S&W's quality - talk about blind brand loyalty.
 

EarlFH

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Redhawk4":2xibhyew said:
I was the one who tried to post it originally on the NAA forum, I received the pics in an email. It would be interesting to know the original source of the pics, what really happened and who really fired it, as opposed to the guy on gun & game claiming it was him.


Quote from Gun&Game forum:

"That does not look good. I will have to say that the fact you are still alive is a testament to the quality of the manufacture of the handgun" what a great statement from the gun & game forum.

The quality of the manufacture of the handgun? the thing blew apart surely due to a massive over charge. What does the quality have to do with that, it seems if anyone was not hurt it would have been due to a minor miracle not S&W's quality - talk about blind brand loyalty.

Yeh. It's a good thing that Rugers have never blown up, because of somebody's stupidity. 'Talk about blind brand loyalty.' :roll:

EarlFH
 

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Are you Stalwarts really serious when you note that Rugers have not suffered this same fate? I have a couple of SBH that "came apart", and, I recall that Dale D. has some he has "collected", along with other makers' "failures". One of mine, a NM, has no story(an old Ebay purchse I made) and the other owner of a four digit gun(SN 18XX) simply refused to discuss the failure of the top strap.............. :shock:
 

Driftwood Johnson

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These are pretty typical photos of a blown up cylinder. And anybody who thinks only Smiths blow up, and not Rugers, is kidding himself. Put too much powder in any revolver and it will blow up.

I used to know a guy who was a line engineer with Ruger at their single action plant. He told me about some high speed video they took of an actual blow up, don't remember at this point whether or not it was a Blackhawk or a Vaquero, but it was definitely a large caliber Ruger single action. They kept feeding it hotter and hotter loads in a test stand until it finally blew up, and they caught the action on high speed video.

In this video, the fracture began at the cylinder locking notch, not at the thin point between chambers. He told me the crack propigated lengthwise from the cylinder notch in both directions. You could see it grow. Then, once the crack had reached the ends of the cylinder it was like it was a zipper. Those were his words. The thin points between the two adjacent chambers folded like hinges and the top chamber split wide open. Then the two adjacent chambers failed completely and both pieces lifted off, taking the top strap with them.

In this photo it is interesting to note the ruptured brass still in the two adjacent chambers. The round in in the center probably ruptured before the cylinder completely separated. Hot powder gas then cut into the two adjacent rounds, igniting the powder inside them. But the cylinder had already started separating, so those two rounds were unsupported. That is probably why one bullet is still present. The powder behind it vented enough pressure out of the ruptured case so that there was only enough pressure to push the bullet forward a bit, not completely out of the chamber.

It is also interesting to note that the rest of the revolver is completely undamaged. Only the cylinder blew up, taking the top strap with it. This is typical of a revolver blow up, the cylinder is the pressure vessel, the frame is just what holds it in place, and the barrel usually has a thicker cross section than the weak points of the cylinder. When a revolver blows up, it is usually just the cylinder that goes, taking the top strap with it.
 

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I never said Ruger's couldn't blow up, you can blow anything up if you are stupid enough. I was purely commenting on what I felt was a lame remark implying the quality of the S&W somehow saved the alledged shooter (who wasn't really) from injury. That seemed to be stretching brand loyalty somewhat to imply that a Smith is so superior to other revolvers, that it even blows up more safely, due to it's inherent build quality. I would have thought the remark just as silly if it had been made about a Ruger or any other make. My original remark made this point clearly, but apparently some of my fellow S&W owners on the forum are very insecure and can see criticism where none was made, other than of the post on gun&game. Perhaps you should take the time to read what people have written before becoming so condescending.

When you blow something up like that and the whole top strap and cylinder parts are flying around, how well made the gun was isn't going to matter, only luck with regards to what the pieces hit, before coming come to rest. It seems some are confusing quality with out right strength, that was not my point. I even stated that a "massive overcharge" had obviously been used.

I don't think we need to start a thread on which revolver blows up best a Ruger or S&W :)
 

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I'd expect a Smith magnum to fold up long before a Colt or a Ruger.

Smith makes some great .38's and .22's, but in mag flavor, I want more than a thong for a top strap.

I have never understood the engineering behind the weak Smith top strap unless the strap is meant to be the weak spot allowing the frame to break apart in an up direction rather than to the side or back. I'd buy that theory. An engineered weak point.

In this specific instance the domino effect of the other 2 rounds exploding didn't give this Smith a chance. Nothing would have stood up to that. Not a borderline example that is for sure.
 
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