GasGuzzler
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It's really bad. Anyone that says otherwise either works for an ISD or is married to someone that does. I have two that just got out (2021 and 2022) and two still in. It's really bad.
Beginning to think the education system has failed our kids.
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Snake Pleskin
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Yes, like everything else, there are good ones and not so good ones. Unions have done what Unions always do, screwed up the whole process, IMHO
Snake Pleskin
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what is an ISD?
It's not the kids as stated in the title to this post. There are still many who learn no matter what. Support these kids as best you can as they ARE the ones who can bring a good future.
The problem is a lot of the education system itself. Federal government intrusion is now mandating a lot of the distractions from learning the basics. I'm not blaming teachers either, except the ones who are eagerly promoting the distractions. Talk to a teacher who has been teaching for a while to get a sense of what used to be and how far we've strayed from the basics.
The education system has been infiltrated by leftist indoctrination for decades. Teacher training and increased government control have ensured this.
Teacher friend of mine spent more time in principal's office to explain his high student failure rate than did kids disrupting his classes. Kids have to spend more and more time learning political correctness than the basic skills needed to compete with the real world (China for one).
Any kid who really wants to learn is handicapped by built-in disruptions of classes. Example: Mandated in-class presence of kids requiring individual person being with them (used to call this 'mainstreaming'). At best these kids would just sit there quietly. More times than not, they would begin talking. Sometimes, they got violent and be back in a few days. It would be the exceptional kid who could screen out the disruptions and learn in that kind of environment.
There is a reason there is a teacher shortage now. Teachers who love to teach their chosen subjects can't do it effectively any more and are quitting. They don't get support of their administration: disruptive kids get sent to the office. Unless the kid gets arrested, they are back in the classroom in a few minutes. Teachers will get in trouble for attempts to control individuals in class. Parents complaining about their kid's poor grades or teacher picking on their kid get believed and the teacher gets in trouble.
Only the exceptionally strong ones even bother fighting the system for the kids anymore. It's just become a job to be survived by the path of least resistance.
Lack of support by parents for growing numbers of reasons gets the blame. As do all the distractions available to kids outside schools.
Snake Pleskin
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Much of what you say is true! Especially the lack of Parental support for the school, teachers & rules. Many parents live in denial of their children's poor behavior and failures, and support it by refusing to listen to the teacher, school etc. that Johnny & Suzy are not perfect!
KIR
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OP: I don no y tink lik that. everyon hear iz a gude speler!
Here's some good kids instinctively helping out:
www.foxnews.com
Georgia high school football players rushed to save woman involved in car crash
Several Georgia high school football players saved a woman trapped in her car after a crash. They used their strength to pry the door open so she could get to safety.
Here's some good kids instinctively helping out:
Georgia high school football players rushed to save woman involved in car crash
Several Georgia high school football players saved a woman trapped in her car after a crash. They used their strength to pry the door open so she could get to safety.
That is an excellent example of how it is how they were raised, what values imparted and how the young men or women have taken that direction and moved forward. There is never a shortage of good and decent in the world, but it is often not viewed as headline worthy, sad to say...
GasGuzzler
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James (CA)
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So,.......
There is those responding to this thread that think that kids today are smart.
Really?, what a lot of baloney.
I could give "Hundreds of examples", but this one should suffice,........
I was in front of my shop,..... kid asks me, "what time is it?"
I pull up my sleeve and show him my watch.
He looks at his shoes, shuffles his feet around,... then admits he can't read a watch.
Claims he could only read, "the other kind of watch", "like on a VCR"
So I say, "you mean a digital watch?", and he says, "yes".
Then I say, "doesn't every class room have a big clock on the wall?"
"if you can't read a clock, how do you know when the class is over?"
He thinks for a moment,.... his face lights up, and he says, "the bell rings!"
Come to find out that this problem is widespread,........
Try explaining some threads are inch, and some are metric to a HS graduate.
You will receive a blank stare in return.
Can't add or subtract, can't answer very basic questions without looking it up on their phone, can't change a out a flat tire, can't read a tape measure,....
I could go on and on and on.
Ignorant, uneducated, lacking even the common sense the God gave to a barbed wire fence.
I myself,...... am a High School drop out, yet I'm the one people call when they need advise to solve a difficult problem, many are college grads and often engineers.
I saw the start of this when metal shop, auto shop, wood shop, and the industrial arts were removed from Junior High and High Schools.
Nearly every kid I have encountered,........
"doesn't know the difference between their elbow and a hot rock"
And anyone who says different is either full of baloney, hasn't interacted with today's youth, or is not very bright themselves.
If the future of this nation is in the hands of today's youth then we are doomed.
I won't even start on the subject of how many of them would shoulder a rifle and defend this great nation.
The enemy could paralyze all of them by shutting off their phones.
What we have now is the, "look it up on the internet generation"
Good luck with that when the power goes out.
There is those responding to this thread that think that kids today are smart.
Really?, what a lot of baloney.
I could give "Hundreds of examples", but this one should suffice,........
I was in front of my shop,..... kid asks me, "what time is it?"
I pull up my sleeve and show him my watch.
He looks at his shoes, shuffles his feet around,... then admits he can't read a watch.
Claims he could only read, "the other kind of watch", "like on a VCR"
So I say, "you mean a digital watch?", and he says, "yes".
Then I say, "doesn't every class room have a big clock on the wall?"
"if you can't read a clock, how do you know when the class is over?"
He thinks for a moment,.... his face lights up, and he says, "the bell rings!"
Come to find out that this problem is widespread,........
Try explaining some threads are inch, and some are metric to a HS graduate.
You will receive a blank stare in return.
Can't add or subtract, can't answer very basic questions without looking it up on their phone, can't change a out a flat tire, can't read a tape measure,....
I could go on and on and on.
Ignorant, uneducated, lacking even the common sense the God gave to a barbed wire fence.
I myself,...... am a High School drop out, yet I'm the one people call when they need advise to solve a difficult problem, many are college grads and often engineers.
I saw the start of this when metal shop, auto shop, wood shop, and the industrial arts were removed from Junior High and High Schools.
Nearly every kid I have encountered,........
"doesn't know the difference between their elbow and a hot rock"
And anyone who says different is either full of baloney, hasn't interacted with today's youth, or is not very bright themselves.
If the future of this nation is in the hands of today's youth then we are doomed.
I won't even start on the subject of how many of them would shoulder a rifle and defend this great nation.
The enemy could paralyze all of them by shutting off their phones.
What we have now is the, "look it up on the internet generation"
Good luck with that when the power goes out.
GasGuzzler
Hunter
My kids are smart.
I think it says, somewhere in the Bible, the poor will always be with us. Don’t know why that is with a library in every town and now the www for education in things from the classics to differential calculus but it seems the masses avoid learning. When I drive to work at Raytheon I encounter clerks who can’t make change but when I get to work I see engineers in the same age group who leave me awe struck.
Bear Paw Jack
Hawkeye
Actually they only carried three models, all were Garmin. Turns out the mount was in the box. You should know that much about something you sell. I’d also think you would know what a GPS is if you are going to work in electronics. Or am I expecting too much???
Johnny-Baseball
Single-Sixer
In the USAF (1969-73) I operated seismic equipment (to detect Russian/Chinese/French nuclear tests). We pulled 12-hour shifts (2 days, one off, two nights, one off, back to days). Night shifts in northern Thailand (along the Thai/Burma/Laotian borders) were long and boring. So every evening I wrote down 15 new Thai words and memorized them. And refreshed my Thai words from the prior shifts. Pretty soon I was learning additional words solely from conversation with Thais. Was that helpful? Absolutely. Our Thai military allies worked with us (to provide physical security) when we'd go into the jungle to replace defective data cable (in 1/4 mile sections). Conversational Thai was essential to getting this done. Same scenario on Mindanao in the PI. Fast forward to my career in accounting. I was a partner and CFO for a Big 8 accounting firm's worldwide operation, and frequently conversed with partners in all parts of the world (Kuwait, Japan, Brazil, Indonesia, France, Germany, Italy, the Philippines, Thailand, etc.). Using a bit of "conversational" foreign language was a great way to turn business-only relationships into personal friendships, which in turn made business issues all the easier to resolve. Now retired, my Spanish is better than it was decades ago, and that helps given the large, ever-increasing influx of Mexicans and Central Americans who work here in Texas.
JackBull
Single-Sixer
THIS^^^^
JackBull
Single-Sixer
Latin is the basis for many of the words from English and science/math. You would have a greater understanding of the meaning and origins of the words you use everyday.
I would put that at about the early 70's.
Depends upon your state probably. In Michigan it stands for "Intermediate School District" and is a combined school district across a couple of regular school districts.
