Be very careful what you say on the Web!

[SR1911SHOOTER]

Be very careful what you say on the Web. I tell my kids all the time
to monitor my grandkids on the Web. It will pay off in the long run.
Blackie

http://www.kbtx.com/content/news/Police-arrest-juvenile-for-public-shooting-threat-on-social-media-474398483.html

 

[Gator89]

If I wouldn't want my mama to know I said it, I don't post it.

Even at 56, still a good rule to follow.

 

[blume357]

I am really surprised at the language used by some on the web.... don't get me wrong, I can cuss better than most sailers... but I don't think foul language should be used in public.. and the web is about as public as you can get.

Also, it seems some people are too stupid to understand that threatening to harm others is against the law....

 

[GP100]

I'm sure there will be some that disagree with this, But.. You guys do see where this is going? Don't you?

Used to be, you had to actually commit a crime before you were considered a criminal.. Now, all you have to do is think about it, and say something to get pinched.

This brings to mind, the movie "Minority Report"..

Just because you say something, doesn't mean you have intent to do something.. But if you really think on it, the real threat here is the threat to freedom of speech.. It's a slippery slope to chipping away at your rights.. Yes, I know it's a double edge sword here, but if you allow this kind of thing to become the norm, the rights you hold dear, will slowly be chipped away until you have nothing left.. A great man once said that if your willing to give up freedom for security, you'll have neither.. Think about it folks.. Are you giving up one freedom for security? And if so, how many other freedoms are you willing to give up for that possible warm and fuzzy feeling of security?

We are now arresting people for a thought? Think real hard on this one folks.. It's a real slippery slope here.. And those that would argue this in government, are obviously part of the problem with why we are heading there..

But if you think I'm wrong in the fact that this will eventually escalate to worse things, then don't complain about the country you wind up with.. After all, it's what you wanted.. And you got it..

Just my opinion,. Take it, or leave it.. It's free..

 

[wunbe]

It's not just the police who can review your emails. Apply for a job that carries serious responsibilities and the companies are likely to go well beyond a background check including police and financial records search. The will also be looking at your emails and patterns of browsing. Applying for a government job that requires a security clearance guarantees it. Not to mention HS data sweeps for idiots espousing racial war and violent overthrows of the government.

wunbe

 

[pisgah]

Yeah, be careful, especially a couple days after a mass shooting. Wait a week or two, when they start ignoring such stuff again, even direct, multiple call-ins to FBI and local police...

 

[blackhawknj]

"Three may keep a secret if tow them are dead." Ben Franklin
"We were given tongues to hide our thoughts." Talleyrand
"Ben sure brain is engaged before putting mouth in gear" Unknown
We live an era of digital recording devices that are interlinked-Big Brother finally has the technology he needs. Act accordingly.

 

[toysoldier]

Do you want people who make public threats arrested, or would you prefer to wait until the threat was carried out and everyone is screaming about gun control?

 

[cas6969]

Please don't post blind links with no other information as to what/where the link is going or it's content.

 

[Pat-inCO]

Used to be, you had to actually commit a crime before you were
considered a criminal.. Now, all you have to do is think about it, and say
something to get pinched.

I'd guess we read different articles.

What I read was that a kid did the current equivalent of standing up in the
middle of a shopping mall and screaming at the top of his lungs that he
was about to kill some people. - - - I can't remember any time where that
was acceptable.

As to the thread subject, what you say on "(anti?) social media" IS the
equivalent to being in the mall, etc. - - - That, at least to me, is a case
where some parents were not being parents in that they did not teach
the kid to NOT make death threats to others. It is much like going to a
movie and part way through it, standing up and yelling "FIRE!" repeatedly.
I think we all agree yelling "fire" in a theater is unacceptable, if in fact it
is not on fire. How is the incident in the article different?

 

[Mobuck]

Making public threats is an indication of lack of self control. Will this lack/loss of self control turn into a real attack? There's the big question.
Being a part of civilization is all about self control. If you don't have it, you don't "fit in". Children usually learn the basics but those who don't pose a potential threat for the rest of their lives.

 

[GP100]

Used to be, you had to actually commit a crime before you were
considered a criminal.. Now, all you have to do is think about it, and say
something to get pinched.

I'd guess we read different articles.

What I read was that a kid did the current equivalent of standing up in the
middle of a shopping mall and screaming at the top of his lungs that he
was about to kill some people. - - - I can't remember any time where that
was acceptable.

As to the thread subject, what you say on "(anti?) social media" IS the
equivalent to being in the mall, etc. - - - That, at least to me, is a case
where some parents were not being parents in that they did not teach
the kid to NOT make death threats to others. It is much like going to a
movie and part way through it, standing up and yelling "FIRE!" repeatedly.
I think we all agree yelling "fire" in a theater is unacceptable, if in fact it
is not on fire. How is the incident in the article different?

Hi Pat,

As always, I respect your opinion.. And I understand what you are saying.. And you make very valid points here.. And you are right..

I'm just saying that this "could" be perverted into a terrible weapon against the people eventually if we allow this to go down the path that some politicians will undoubtedly go.. It's a slippery slope in my opinion.. And I can guarantee that there will be those out there that will bastardize this power, to abuse others with it..

What exactly could be construed as a "terrorist threat" is in question here.. Hypothetical here. But what if, you are talking to a neighbor or friend, and make the comment that you wish a certain person would croak in the government.. You have no "intent" on doing that person any harm yourself.. It's just a thought..

Next thing you know, your hauled away as a potential domestic terrorist because you harbor ill feelings toward a government official.. Further that, your looking at charges.. Extreme? Yes.. But you and I both know that absolute power corrupts absolutely.. Given the state of affairs nowadays in our country, it might not be so far fetched a scenario.. Think "Minority Report".. Where people are hauled away for crimes they "think" about, but haven't actually done yet..

Anybody can run their mouth about doing this or that.. But do they have "intent" is another question.. You might want to punch someone in the mouth.. But that doesn't mean you will actually do it..

I'm just saying we need to be very careful here with how we execute these policies.. Otherwise, we might be looking at something that could come back to bite us in the end.. Give anyone enough authority to interpret something the way they desire to, and it will always be used to beat someone else down with..

Perhaps I'm wrong.. It is true that I have a serious distrust for our government given what they have pulled on the American public.. Maybe I'm seeing the devil where he doesn't exist in this case.. I honestly don't know.. It just isn't to hard for me to believe that one way to disarm the public, is to label anyone they deem as a gun owner as a "potential" threat by anything that is said by that person, that isn't liked by someone else with an agenda..

This is all my opinion of course.. And if I'm wrong, so be it.. But I'm seeing certain things recently that are telling me, our freedom of speech may be under attack.. And they are using these events to justify it.. And the second amendment as well.. There are groups out there, that will use these events to rip our constitution apart if they can get away with it.. We must be forever vigilant.. It's just a small stepping stone to what they have in store for us..

Again, I appreciate your comment Sir.. Very good points you bring up..

 

[Selena]

Be careful of the words you sling,
Keep them soft and sweet.
For you never know by the end of the day.
Which ones you will have to eat.

This is a little piece of doggerel that has been in my family for likely generations. In my mind, it's a good a piece of advice for the net as it is leaning against the fence talking to your neighbor.

 

[CGDustDevil]

I'm sure there will be some that disagree with this, But.. You guys do see where this is going? Don't you?

Used to be, you had to actually commit a crime before you were considered a criminal.. Now, all you have to do is think about it, and say something to get pinched.

<snip>
We are now arresting people for a thought? Think real hard on this one folks.. It's a real slippery slope here.. And those that would argue this in government, are obviously part of the problem with why we are heading there..

But if you think I'm wrong in the fact that this will eventually escalate to worse things, then don't complain about the country you wind up with.. After all, it's what you wanted.. And you got it..

Just my opinion,. Take it, or leave it.. It's free..

The free expression of thoughts has been under attack since President Adams signed the Alien & Sedition Acts that the 5th Congress drafted and passed in 1798! Freedom of speech took an immediate hit and never recovered. The Supreme Court finished it off in 1925 via incorporation in Gitlow v New York. Since that time, the High Court has incorporated the bulk of the rest of the Bill of Rights, most recently with McDonald v Chicago in 2010.

Now a majority of 5 black robed 'justices' get to dictate what happens in the 50 States in regards to speech, arms, establishment of religion, etc etc.

 

[Gaffer]

I am shocked at the vulgarity that is seen on social media, such as Face Book.. There in a FB here in my state for the progun group that defeated Blombergs latest antigun referendum. It is riddled with vulgar language and IMHO defeats any chance of winning over any on the fence voters. I understand that much of the vulgarity comes from military experience but if you would not say it in front of your mother, don't say it at all.

 

[wunbe]

Gaffer and others,

Bad taste is Not what is at issue here. The topic here is the propriety of government identifying potentially dangerous individuals by monitoring all of us all the time. Bad language is irrelevant to this far important matter.

Another thread on that would be fine.

wunbe

 

[blume357]

In reference to the above post... I am totally against the government monitoring us... or to be specific eavesdropping in on private conversations.. whether this is via phone or email.. but with that said, this forum and others such as Facebook and etc... are not private. Saying something on these is public. On top of that... once you type it and hit 'return' what you wrote is there forever. If you see a friend at the mall and yell over to them that they have cooties... half the folks that heard you will have heard something different.. but it you write it on the web... it is written in stone.

simple rule: don't threaten to do something unless you are willing to do it and face the consequences.

 

[powder smoke]

In reference to the above post... I am totally against the government monitoring us... or to be specific eavesdropping in on private conversations.. whether this is via phone or email.. but with that said, this forum and others such as Facebook and etc... are not private.

Not to worry, "It's for your own good don't cha know"
Feel safer now? Didn't think so. ps

 

[vito]

Being retired has the advantage of not worrying about a potential employer reading the posts under my own name on social media and concluding that I am a right wing curmudgeon who loves the 2nd Amendment, hated Obama but not because of his race, and still enjoys looking at good looking women (but just looking!). On the forums I participate in, I don't use my real name, but I guess it wouldn't be that hard to the government to figure out who I am. They will discover that I used to own guns, but lost them all in various calamities, would never vote for a Democrat, and still convinced that people claiming to be transgender are just mentally deranged. I'm smart enough to never threaten anyone on the internet.

 

[mistermills357]

Detectives with the Criminal Investigation Division were notified, and after further investigation believed the juvenile made a credible threat with the intent of placing the public or a substantial group of the public in fear of serious bodily injury. The juvenile was subsequently arrested for the offense of Terroristic Threat.

If the kid is convicted, it might ruin his life. If the kid blatantly threatened to do harm, then he is in real trouble, and he will regret doing it. America is a mess, and its progeny (offspring) prove that, wisdom has been drilled out of them, and foolishness has been drilled into them instead. It will continue to go downhill, with no end in sight, in my view.

And yes, be careful what you say, since every device has an IP address, and is traceable. All I had to do was type in IP on Google, and there it was, my address on the web---66.194.104.5