"Battery explosion?"

[ProfessorWes]

Big trouble in the little Chinese port of Ningbo, as a Yang Ming container ship just, all of a sudden, blew up pierside.

Massive explosion rocks Yang Ming boxship at berth in Ningbo - Splash247

An explosion occurred on the boxship YM Mobility at a container terminal in the Beilun Port area of Zhoushan Port. The cause of the accident was initially determined to be an explosion of a container on the ship, and there were no reports of casualties. According to timestamps from surveillance...

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[RC44Mag]

Ah that's nothing, it'll buff right out

 

[redhawker]

Yeah...and they want us to drive around sitting on top of one of those batteries almost as big as the car it's in.

 

[HumphreyDaBear]

Lots of blue dreams… no brains involved. Fossil fuels for now. Unfortunately,
The defense industry of old school has other ideas=more money for the members of Congress's unmanaged investments, just coincidence on their windfall returns on investments. IMO…

 

[blume357]

In a work van of mine I pulled up in a parking lot, shut the van off then realized I need to move forward a bit and went to turn it back on a the engine was dieseling when I turned the switch... there was one hell of an explosion and then nothing... got out and looked under the hood and the battery was pretty much gone and acid and small parts everywhere.... we should have gotten rid of the internal combustion engine years ago... just think about it... everyone of them has a tank filled with highly flammable and explosive liquid in it. The reason you aren't supposed to use your cell phone while filling up is because of the potential for a 'spark', guess how the damn vehicle works... by making a spark....

 

[pisgah]

Once the roads are full of Teslas we will long for the good old days of the Pinto, virtually fireproof by comparison...

 

[eveled]

We should have stuck with steam powered vehicles.

 

[sceva]

The reason you aren't supposed to use your cell phone while filling up is because of the potential for a 'spark', guess how the damn vehicle works... by making a spark....

If you check there are no actual known occurrences where a cell phone sparked and caused a gasoline fire. While there may be a very slight risk it is so low that it really doesn't warrant the signs. There is more risk from static electricity getting into and out of the car

the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) states there is no evidence that these reports are true. While it may be "theoretically possible for a spark from a cell phone battery to ignite gas vapor," the FCC concludes the potential threat is remote.

If cell phones aren't the problem, what could cause a fire at the gas pump?

According to the Petroleum Equipment Institute (PEI), static electricity discharge is a major culprit. PEI goes on to recommend three simple rules for safe refueling:

1. Turn off your engine.
2. Don't smoke.
3. Never re-enter your vehicle while refueling.

While your cell phone may not actually be the cause of a fire at the gas pump, experts all agree consumers should take the appropriate precautions -- follow these three rules and those posted by the gas stations to reduce risks.

So why do you see those "Turn off all cell phones" stickers at the pump?

Gas pumps around the world bear stickers cautioning motorists to turn off their phones while refueling. Why is that? In 1999 the city of Cicero, Illinois passed the first law in the U.S. banning the use of cellular phones at gas stations. Today all major oil companies have followed suit and, as a preventive measure, ban cell phone use at gas pumps.

 

[bobski]

horses by golly. the amish got it right!

 

[Colonialgirl]

PLUS, The Tesla and other electric toys are MUCH heavier in weight on the road surfaces; PLUS they pay NO ROAD TAXES gathered by the tax on gasoline and diesel.

 

[blume357]

My point about cell phones and filling up was to show how silly it is. With that said I am trying say that in my opinion y'alls worry about the batteries in these electric cars is kind of over the top considering what we are riding around in today.....in fact all cars ... gas, diesel, electric or even a Fred Flintstone powered one are dangerous... if we look at the statistics they all should be banned. I used to do a seminar for chimney sweeps on ladder safety and at the end I would point out that in reality the most dangerous thing we do everyday is drive to and from the jobs.

 

[Paul B]

I've heard China is the main exporter of nitrocellulose, the main ingredient not only in explosive but smokeless powder. it's also used in many other products. China is refusing to sell any nitrocellulose to the western powder as the biggest portion now goes to Russia, counties affiliated with Russia and North Korea.

Just how accurate that information may be I can't say for sure but the source was pretty confident about the accuracy. If the countries our powder for reloading comes from foreign counties affiliated with the US has had their supply of nitrocellulose cut off and many European countries no longer allow it to be made and we make none or very little here, that could explain the powder shortages in out supply.

There's a thread going on another site where a handloader who's just starting out that lives in Finland can only get VV powders for the most part. He can get a few other foreign made powder but at great expense and long travel. Note that Alliant recently stopped supplies of their powders.

THat does make me wonderjust what was the cargo on that ship????
Paul B.

 

[Johnnu2]

Makes me think about how we are all on our way to having BESS systems "developed" in our towns across the US. Evidently the 'green kids" don't worry about monster fires anymore. (The battery energy storage system's (BESS) essential function is to capture the energy from different sources and store it in rechargeable batteries for later use.)

WE'RE DOOMED....
J.

 

[Fox Mike]

As you are leaving Aberdeen Proving Ground and just before you clear the boundary gate there is a sign: "You are about to enter the most dangerous place in the US, a public highway"

 

[Ride1949]

PLUS, The Tesla and other electric toys are MUCH heavier in weight on the road surfaces; PLUS they pay NO ROAD TAXES gathered by the tax on gasoline and diesel.

 

[turd]

^^^That is funny and also a classic.

 

[blume357]

Actually a neighbor had an electric motorcycle and it was pretty cool.... not a moped or electric bicycle but what looked like a normal street motorcycle. the only problem I had with it was you could not hear him coming. I suggested he get a good stereo system for it and play the sound of a Harley as he road it.

 

[Rat76]

Baseball cards in the spokes, no battery drain.

 

[jyo]

Regarding electric vehicles making no sound while being operated, the "Harley guys" have always said: "Loud pipes save lives!"

 

[vito]

Of those three rules for avoiding a fire while refueling your vehicle, the first two make sense to me. But the third rule, about not re-entering your car while refueling, doesn't cut it with reality. When the weather is bitter cold or raining heavily, few folks seem to stand out in the elements until finishing refueling. Personally I have not seen a car fire at a gas station even once in my life, and I have been filling up car gas tanks for well over 60 years, so I am not going to worry much about this.