Back from an involuntary absence, and an Old Army question.

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Bearcat
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Greetings all. At one time I was fairly active here, but have been away for quite a while. Work, 4 family deaths, a divorce.... it has been quite the eventful last few years. I always enjoyed swapping lies with folks online and hope to be a regular again.

Anyway, I find myself nearing retirement and things settling down a bit. I have still been shooting a fair amount through all the above events due to being in law enforcement, but now I am looking to start doing a lot more of it, mostly with a herd of grandkids that either already are, or will soon be a proper age to start.

So... to the point. About 20 years ago I took in a stainless Old Army, 5.5" fixed. I took it in partial trade for something with the intent on holding it until I started shooting more with family and my first batch of grandkids (now adults). It came from a dealer, NIB, at a time when they were readily available and therefore did not draw a lot of interest (go figure). Well, the shooting with the kids happened to a lesser extent than intended, and the Ruger never got shot. It has literally set in my safe all this time, in the case, in the plastic bag, all papers, pretty much untouched.

So, now I have a need for a BP revolver to educate the kids, but it seems like the prudent thing to do might be to sell the Ruger and pick up a Uberti or something similar as it will see limited use. Maybe something a bit smaller like an 1849 Pocket .31. My only intent is to educate them a little on how things have changed with a few sessions learning to load and shoot them.

It seems the Ruger is bringing a lot more these days than the roughly $375 I have in it. There is a shop here near me who sells on consignment and gives LE a bit of a break on the fee. I can set my own asking price and they take a percentage of what it sells for.

Looking for input as to what you folks think I should expect this to bring. I am in the midwest, rural area, so I expect there to be a decent amount of interest in it.

I know the rules... I am NOT looking to sell it here.. just doing some research before I put it on consignment.
 

contender

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Welcome back!

Sorry to hear about your rough years. As LEO,, you have probably figured out it's all part of life in general. I know my son has. His life has been tough for a few years now,, and as LEO,, he too has seen his fair share. LUCKILY,, his wife is still with him,,, but her health issues are part of his stress levels.

Now,, on to better things.

I'd keep the Old Army & use it. Take care of it,, (proper cleaning after shooting,) and it'll still bring more than your $375 invested. And,, they are an easier cleaning gun vs the Uberti guns,, in my opinion.
 

48flyer

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I agree with the above. Keep it, but if you decide not to keep it, offer it up here for sale in the classifieds. I think there are more than a few of us that would be interested in it.
 

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Bearcat
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Using it was always the plan until recently. I now have the need, so I started looking around for powder, balls, etc. and in the course of conversation at different places I had a couple of folks express a real interest in buying it since it is what it is, and completely unmolested.

I really have limited use for it as we shoot so much modern stuff there is not a lot of time left over for it. I really only need it as an educational tool.

I have had local offers of up to $1200 for it, and have seen them go online for less... and more, up to almost $1500. I am not really looking to gouge on it, but the difference in a reasonable price to someone who is really into BP, and the price of a small frame Italian copy for the few rounds downrange I see happening.... well, that much cash will buy a lot of 22lr ammo the kids burn though like dry leaves as well as my own practice needs.

I am finding the Italian copies are not the easiest to find at the moment. I have a Uberti Walker that I won at a match many years ago, but the kids would have a problem holding that beast up! The Ruger would be more manageable, but a nice little 1849 or 1851 in 31 or 36 would be perfect. Just hard to find right now.

I may end up using it, but right now I am just trying to get a feel for what it should sell for before I make my mind up.

Any input on value would be appreciated.
 

Uncle Howie

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I’d advocate for a .36 for general teaching/shooting, vs. a .31.

I have a Pietta replica of an 1863 Remington in .31, and it’s tiny!

You can certainly ’download’ the .36 to whatever level the little ones need to start out.

Again for the youngsters, I’d go with a Remington full-frame style, vs. an open-top Colt. Remingtons just seem a little less temperamental, in my experience.

Here’s one option from Pietta:
http://piettausa.com/1858-Remington-Steel-Sheriff-36-65-_p_742.html

The Old Army is a luxury good, not a necessity. IMHO, it’s not “gouging” for you to get every last nickel out of it… :p

If you have a local (no hassle) offer for $1200, I wouldn’t feel bad for a second, taking that offer. It may be worth slightly more, if you find the right buyer, but not fooling aroundw/shipping, Money Orders, etc. is also worth something!
 

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I initially was looking for a Remington. I have not been successful finding any in stock anywhere. I will consider the .31 vs .36 advice. I had actually considered a .44 if I could find anything in stock that I wanted, but my fear is that a light load in that for the small folks might cause me some issues with the loading ram length not seating a ball fully. So I started looking at .31 and .36 cals.

Thanks for the input Unk. If you run across any of those Remingtons in stock anywhere please let me know.
 

RSIno1

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They are only new once. Take the $1200 and buy a $3-400 one to shoot. With that kind of profit on the OA you don't need to really shop for the cheapest deal. A lot are in stock at Midway https://www.midwayusa.com/s?searchTerm=Black+powder+revolvers+&perPage=48
Another advantage with black powder is you can mail it direct to your buyer in most of the US.
 

eveled

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I’d sell it and get a muzzle loading percussion pistol to teach the kids on.

Really not that big of a difference shooting an Old Army vs a Blackhawk

Once they understand the cap and ball muzzle loader. You can explain the cap and ball revolver and move on to the Blackhawk.
 

BloodyThumb

Bearcat
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They have seen and fired a small muzzle loading rifle, so a percussion pistol would be kinda redundant.

We have discussed it here and decided which direction we want to go in with a revolver including caliber and have narrowed it down to 2 models, assuming we don't decide to just go ahead and use the Ruger.

I appreciate the input folks and it was helpful until we narrowed it down, but to be honest... for clarification.... my question really was....

"Looking for input as to what you folks think I should expect this to bring." .... as in $$$. What do they bring in your area... what have you seen them sell for recently, NIB or otherwise, in stainless 5.5" fixed sights. We are still interested in that input.

Thanks in advance,

BT
 

G2

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Local face-2-face offer of $1,200 is fair and a good deal for both parties.

It will bring more on Gun Broker maybe the $1,500 but then Gun Broker takes their cut, sales taxes, GB sales fee, yadayada… GB has turned into a mess.

If you know what you want, GREAT PICTURES and park it on Guns International is the way to find the discriminating gun enthusiast.

IMO
 

BloodyThumb

Bearcat
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G2 said:
Local face-2-face offer of $1,200 is fair and a good deal for both parties.

It will bring more on Gun Broker maybe the $1,500 but then Gun Broker takes their cut, sales taxes, GB sales fee, yadayada… GB has turned into a mess.

If you know what you want, GREAT PICTURES and park it on Guns International is the way to find the discriminating gun enthusiast.

IMO


Thank you sir. I agree. GB is not an option anymore. I used it a lot over they years, but not in the last couple. They got really greedy and most of their customers went away. The total number of listings is a fraction of what it used to be.
 

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