ATF investigating California fires

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The correct alphabet description of the ATF is ATFE, the E is for explosives. If and only if the fires were started by some terrorist group, then not only would the ATFE be involved but the FBI, National Guard, local Law Enforcement groups, etc., etc. Terrorists' groups watch the weather just like most of us civilians do, and they could well figure out just when and where to start such fires. It has already been determined that known folks with terrorist background have migrated into the U.S. If it has been determined that terrorists have created such terrible fires which has taken lives and billions of dollars to our economy there would be no prison terms sufficient for them, only executions of the worst kind, by a burning furnace!
 
I'll solve the "mystery" for y'all. It's almost a mathematical formula. Cold (for CA) weather + cold mentally ill and/or drugged out homeless folks everywhere + campfires to cook with and keep warm + high winds = Southern CA wildfires.
 
I know it is a tragedy for a number of people who lost their homes but really? Ever since I can remember, this time of the year California has been on fire... it is just normal.
Seems to be big news for some reason even though historically it's like the weather channel reporting there is going to be snow in the North East this Winter.

The BATFE, FBI, Homeland Security, and etc will determine it was done by some group, pick our latest enemy we have at the moment, and then Trump will order them bombed and we'll spend a couple billion dollars protecting ourselves and also have to replace those munitions keeping our Industrial Military Complex up and running and then a decade or so later on the 8th page of the paper (if there still is such a thing) it will be reported they made a mistake and it was some little kid setting off a firecracker.
 
So, they 'investigate' and discover there was some sort of political plot involved. Then what? Dust under the rug and move along folks, nothing to see here? Typical waste of time and $$ to make a show and then cover up.
 
I know it is a tragedy for a number of people who lost their homes but really? Ever since I can remember, this time of the year California has been on fire... it is just normal.
Seems to be big news for some reason even though historically it's like the weather channel reporting there is going to be snow in the North East this Winter.

The BATFE, FBI, Homeland Security, and etc will determine it was done by some group, pick our latest enemy we have at the moment, and then Trump will order them bombed and we'll spend a couple billion dollars protecting ourselves and also have to replace those munitions keeping our Industrial Military Complex up and running and then a decade or so later on the 8th page of the paper (if there still is such a thing) it will be reported they made a mistake and it was some little kid setting off a firecracker.
Well, hurricanes happen annually. Should we not help those who suffer loss from those?
 
I'm all in favor of helping the folks hit by the fires in California... Just be aware their are folks in North Carolina that probably don't know or at least care about these fires since they are trying to survive in tents and don't have Cable or Satellite TV anymore ... or a house. I just am amazed that every year it is a head line in the news that California is on fire, once again.
 
I'm all in favor of helping the folks hit by the fires in California... Just be aware their are folks in North Carolina that probably don't know or at least care about these fires since they are trying to survive in tents and don't have Cable or Satellite TV anymore ... or a house. I just am amazed that every year it is a head line in the news that California is on fire, once again.
Nature just preparing the ground for the annual mudslide festival.
 
"I'm all in favor of helping the folks hit by the fires in California... Just be aware their are folks in North Carolina that probably don't know or at least care about these fires since they are trying to survive in tents and don't have Cable or Satellite TV anymore ... or a house."

I too feel a lot of heartache for those in Ca. that have been burned out. Help them if you can.

But just today,, I went to Asheville NC. One of the areas of WNC that was devastated by Helene. I had to take a very different route,, in a very popular area of Asheville,, because the road is still out. Over 3 months out now. And when I got to my customer's house,, he pointed to an area just below his house,, where 10 houses USED to be. Washed away,, completely. I also saw several places where tents were set up,, being occupied by people. And I even saw 2 people near one of the camps,, wrapped up in coats & sleeping bags,, trying to stay warm.
And locally, on the news,, there are about 3000+ people that have been put up in a hotel,, that has been paid for by FEMA money. The interesting part? FEMA has extended the payments for these rooms twice so far. But ONLY after serious pressure from the media & published reports. And right now,, they say the payments will end on 1/27/25. And the local news folks have interviewed these people,, who say that nobody at FEMA,, (when they spoke to someone,) offered any REAL assistance. In fact one lady,, who's in a motel with her 87 yr old mother,, say that the FEMA person she spoke to,, was very rude & didn't offer any help.
One guy,, who has a kidney disease,, is in a motel,, and his home is currently listed as "uninhabitable" (mold & water damage,) has not been able to get anybody from FEMA to help him either. Apparently,, FEMA thinks all these displaced people have access to internet,, and do not try & offer help, unless they "First file a report online,, and set up an inspection of their property." Well, with roads out,, and many not having internet or a computer or such,, they try to CALL FEMA,,, but get NO response.

So due to the inefficient management of the disaster by FEMA,, we may have 3000+ homeless people soon.

Now,, I know that's nowhere near the numbers in So. Ca. But still,, you'd think that after 3 months,, FEMA would have been able to reach out to people DIRECTLY to see if they could actually help them.
 
I'm all in favor of helping the folks hit by the fires in California... Just be aware their are folks in North Carolina that probably don't know or at least care about these fires since they are trying to survive in tents and don't have Cable or Satellite TV anymore ... or a house. I just am amazed that every year it is a head line in the news that California is on fire, once again.
Exactly this...they still are finding bodies, or skeletons in NC...I guess those folks aren't as important as Kalifornians
 
"...I guess those folks aren't as important as Kalifornians" To the CA liberals they aren't because they vote with their brains instead of just voting lock step with the liberal Demoncrats. Let's hope that the Trump administration takes control of FEMA and makes some badly needed corrections to help the people who really need it.
 
have to replace those munitions keeping our Industrial Military Complex up and running
Si vis pacem, para bellum as the saying goes.

An Attack Squadron (VA 196 if I recall) had Ordie shirts made that had the outline of an A6 dropping MK series with snake eyes that said "those who long for peace must prepare for war" on the front and Ordies loading a rack on the back. Thought that was awesome. For A6 guys anyway.....
It's not government's job to "fix" life's calamities for you. They ain't your daddy.

Ahhhh but that's where everyone tends to become of a liberal mindset and want handouts. Only difference is that the handout is warranted in some calamities.
 

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