Anatomy of a Biathlon Rifle
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That doesn't bother me. The fact that they use .22 LR wasn't stated. How far they shoot wasn't stated, and how it is scored wasn't stated. My father a WWll vet, called magazines, clips! All the other picky crap doesn't bother me, cause you KNOW what is meant.
gramps
gramps
Targets are 50 meters, Size of prone is 1.8 inches, standing targets are 4.5 inches.
Scoring is the total time it takes to shoot the targets and ski the distance. Misses require the athletes to ski a penalty loop of 150 meters which normally takes about 20 to 30 seconds to complete, One penalty loop must be skied per miss.
Depending on the event, 3 laps completed with prone shooting at the end of the first lap and standing at the end of the second lap. 5 laps involve prone after laps one and two and standing at the end of laps three and four. Relay events have different numbers of laps and mixed relays get three extra rounds to for the event. The extra rounds have to be loaded manually and not from a magazine.
Think of it as running a 440 yard dash or an 800 meter run, shooting five rounds and repeating. Tough.
Scoring is the total time it takes to shoot the targets and ski the distance. Misses require the athletes to ski a penalty loop of 150 meters which normally takes about 20 to 30 seconds to complete, One penalty loop must be skied per miss.
Depending on the event, 3 laps completed with prone shooting at the end of the first lap and standing at the end of the second lap. 5 laps involve prone after laps one and two and standing at the end of laps three and four. Relay events have different numbers of laps and mixed relays get three extra rounds to for the event. The extra rounds have to be loaded manually and not from a magazine.
Think of it as running a 440 yard dash or an 800 meter run, shooting five rounds and repeating. Tough.
Pat-inCO
Hawkeye
While we do, others that watch the video may (do?) not.gramps said:
Anyone that represents themselves as knowledgeable, should/must
show that in what they say and do.
Repeating, WHEN THEY REPRESENT THEMSELVES . . .
If they say "In My Opinion" . . . . no one cares what they say.
graygun
Hunter
gramps said:
The Garand uses clips.
RSIno1
Hunter
He said 22 and they showed empty brass in the snow. Also said 50 yards. Your dad called magazines clips because that is what they called the ammo carriers for his M1 Garand. I figure since you get 5 shots and there are 5 targets you get a point for each.gramps said:
DGW1949
Hunter
graygun said:
As does the 1903, 03-A3, and Mausers. The M1 Carbine, M-14 and M1A can use either for reloading if there's an empty (or partially depleted) magazine in place...as-can my personal (582-Series) Mini-14, which has a receiver-mounted 'clip guide' very similar to what is found on an M-14.
All that said...all repeating rifles have a magazine, be it blind, tubular, rotary, fixed, a removable box or whatever...for that's the term for the portion of the gun it's ammo gets loaded into. Only real difference in any of 'em from the user's standpoint is that some are designed to be quickly removable/replaced but most are not. Of the latter, most sporting rifle magazines must be loaded one round at a time until it's full, and most military rifles can be loaded with what is commonly called a "stripper clip".
There are exceptions to that, the Stoner platform being a prime example. And as you have pointed out, the M1 Garand...which is 'one off' design in that the "clip" it uses could have just as accurately have been called a 'half magazine'...meaning that the body of it's clip is actually/functionally a part of it's magazine Ass'y, sans the spring and follower of course (which remain in the gun).
Conclusion:
All repeating rifles have a magazine, but not all are designed to use a clip.
So yeah, words do mean things. Plus, some words require additional words in order to paint a correct picture...as-in, there's quite a difference in a "fixed magazine", "replaceable box magazine" and "tubular magazine", just as there's a difference in an "en bloc clip" and a "stripper clip".
It sometimes helps when we know what the other guy is talking about, that's all I'm trying to get at here...No offense meant to anyone.
DGW
toysoldier
Hunter
I remember that folks got together to set up a "summer biathlon" that involved shooting and bicycling. Is it still going?
caryc
Hawkeye
The M1 Carbine uses what are called stripper clips to load magazines. The first pic shows ten rounds loaded into a stripper clip. The next pic shows the stripper clip slipped onto the magazine. All one needs to do then is push on the top round and slide them all down into the magazine. GI's usually carried their ammo in cloth belts with pockets for preloaded stripper clips for fast loading. I have a few thousand rounds all loaded in stripper clips, should the occasion come that I have a need for them.
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Minimum weight is 3.5 kg. not sure but I think that is without ammo.
Dave
7.7 lbs -- edited for english units - moderator
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7.7 lbs -- edited for english units - moderator
toysoldier
Hunter
They used to shoot with military cartridges, including .30-06. The Swedes and Norwegians had an advantage with the 6.5x57.
"The Swedes and Norwegians had an advantage with the 6.5x57."
Since everyone seems to be nitpicking, I'm fairly certain this was the 6.5x55.
Since everyone seems to be nitpicking, I'm fairly certain this was the 6.5x55.
I believe when toysoldier said "used to'" he was refering to fullbore biathalon.
https://wikimili.com/en/Biathlon_rifle#Fullbore
And yes, Mobuck was correct on tne 6.5x55.
.22 LR was designated as the standard biathalon cartridge in 1978.
https://wikimili.com/en/Biathlon_rifle#Fullbore
And yes, Mobuck was correct on tne 6.5x55.
.22 LR was designated as the standard biathalon cartridge in 1978.
