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outlaw_dogboy

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I think the answer was taking place prior to *resident Biden's installation. The free market was progressing toward more and more electric. Given a choice and not being hamstrung by federal overregulation, and general public hysteria, we have the technology to move safely, efficiently, and fairly quickly to a greener electrical infrastructure. But the way the feds are trying to force it by shutting down the standard energy sources is ham-stringing the country's ability to move, build, or do anything. It is a failed policy. People need to be able to survive to get to a green economy. Unless you're wanting to just kill off enough people that society collapses, and all you have left is a green earth, with minimal to no population.
 

Aqualung

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So, what is the answer?
Go back a couple of hundred years? Or maybe to the Stone age and start all over. We need some good thinkers to solve this problem. Or we poison all of us with toxins.
Rocko Rizzo

Like I responded earlier, it's not the outcome that is resisted, it's the means to that end.

I think there are a lot of "good thinkers" on the case to solve the problems...except they can't agree and politically use their beliefs as cudgels to force their beliefs on others. In the political battle, there is so much collateral damage and strides forward are lost in the mayhem.

The "greenies" need to understand that the "fossils" aren't out to ruin the planet and aren't evil. The "fossils" need to understand that part of their responsibility is to lessen the impact. And *Everyone* needs to accept that their ideas aren't the end-all solution to replace the other's and their ways have limitations.

Is solar energy great? Damn right it is, but accept its downsides and limitations...same with wind. Don't make it out to be today's replacement to fossil fuels.

Can clean and efficient ICEs be developed? Absolutely. Maybe not tomorrow, but who knows what lies ahead technologically? Look at what's been gained since cars were invented? I have a pickup truck with a V8 engine that gets 15-21mpg...My dad's 1990 Grand Wagoneer gets 10-12.

Can coal-fired energy plants be made to burn cleaner? I'm sure they've been improved over the years because they've had to be.

I will say that many of the improvements have been made because of Government regulation, because even I'm not naive enough to think that private industry would have taken the initiative to do so on its own...however, the same incentives given to green tech development would also go pretty far in urging cleaner fossil fuel technology. No, green tech get the carrots, while fossil fuels get "the stick"...

I think of HRC's campaign slogan that she was going to shut down the coal industry (in West Virginia, no less)...and this current situation with the gas industry...

Just think of the *real* progress that could be made if everyone just sucked up their bullspit political views and worked together...

Aqualung
 

Colonialgirl

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Strange how all the high level (you fill in whatever) always seem to live in big expensive homes with LOADS of heat/cooling, swimming pools, etc, drive BIG or are driven in big limousines and fly in pollution spewing PRIVATE jets to meeting in exotic vacation locations around the world while demanding YOU use electric vehicles shut down your AC, and walk to work. Ask Jimbo down in South Florida IF he has shut off his AC and drives an electric car.
 

Joe Chartreuse

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Incorrect on the CR2032 and cell phone. A CR2032 is a large button battery, usually found in electric votive candles, but also in some laser sights. The rest was completely accurate ( I have degrees in electronics and business). Great article.
 

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How much fuel does this machine that digs ore for the manufacture of batteries use?
When we run out of fuel to heat our houses and cook our meals we will be back to burning wood and coal among other things...that will be pollution personified. I have lived many places where firewood was the norm for cooking and heating and I guarantee you we do not want to go back there for the masses...
 

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Incorrect on the CR2032 and cell phone. A CR2032 is a large button battery, usually found in electric votive candles, but also in some laser sights. The rest was completely accurate ( I have degrees in electronics and business). Great article.
A degree, but not really knowledgeable about 2032 uses. I worked with a lot of water system controllers that used the as backup power.
 

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How much fuel does this machine that digs ore for the manufacture of batteries use?
When we run out of fuel to heat our houses and cook our meals we will be back to burning wood and coal among other things...that will be pollution personified. I have lived many places where firewood was the norm for cooking and heating and I guarantee you we do not want to go back there for the masses...
Don't know, but I sure wouldn't want to get in it's way!
 

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