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Years ago I had a customer that was a Marine in Viet Nam. Once his patrol was pinned down in a rice patty and the enemy was in a tree line firing into the patty. They were pinned for long time and as night approached he knew that they would not make it. He called command and control requested air support. He was told that Air Force would send support. He responded, hell no! I want Marine pilots for support. CC asked why he wanted Marine support. He said because the Air Force would drop bombs from 10,000 feet but the Marine pilots would be down on the deck to drop theirs. Twenty minutes later Marine F-4's came in and he said, I swear I could have reached up and touched them? That ended the attack and we made it safely back to base.

Once on a commercial flight I heard a conversation with an older lady and this young guy who looked about twenty. Making small talk she asked him what did he do. He said I fly single engine planes. As we landed the pilot hit the runway fairly hard. The young guy says, wow I would have been written up for that landing. I looked at him and said, Air Force? He said, yes sir. F-16s? Yes sir. I said, this pilot is obviously ex-Navy. He just laughed.
 

Bob Wright

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As to Air Support, my late nephew was at Khe Sahn (?) and they came under a night time attack. They radioed for Air ASupport and in short order four F-4s responded. He took photos of the attack and there are green tracers lacing the night sky as the Viet Cong fired at the attackers. Shortly a Puff the Magic Dragon showed up (An AC-47 gun ship.) It had all of its lights on and began hosing down the area. Only red tracers could be seen.
 
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Not truly a 'war story' but if you have been around aviation you will understand. The wife and I were returning from a trip somewhere (forget now where) and we landed at BWI (Baltimore). When I say we landed I should say WE LANDED!!! At the time we had been seated all the way in the back so we were the last to leave. As we were leaving the pilots were standing and speaking with various people as they left. When we go to the front I said to them: "We damn sure got the second wire tonight!" They both laughed and said, almost in unison, "Yep!"
 

XUSNORDIE

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Years ago I had a customer that was a Marine in Viet Nam. Once his patrol was pinned down in a rice patty and the enemy was in a tree line firing into the patty. They were pinned for long time and as night approached he knew that they would not make it. He called command and control requested air support. He was told that Air Force would send support. He responded, hell no! I want Marine pilots for support. CC asked why he wanted Marine support. He said because the Air Force would drop bombs from 10,000 feet but the Marine pilots would be down on the deck to drop theirs. Twenty minutes later Marine F-4's came in and he said, I swear I could have reached up and touched them? That ended the attack and we made it safely back to base.

Once on a commercial flight I heard a conversation with an older lady and this young guy who looked about twenty. Making small talk she asked him what did he do. He said I fly single engine planes. As we landed the pilot hit the runway fairly hard. The young guy says, wow I would have been written up for that landing. I looked at him and said, Air Force? He said, yes sir. F-16s? Yes sir. I said, this pilot is obviously ex-Navy. He just laughed.
Ha! The thought of an Air Force guy landing on the pitching deck of a carrier is hilarious....Navy pilots can take the abuse that comes from catching a wire in a controlled crash.......no long landing strip for a dainty soft touch Air Force landing... :LOL:

Cool stories though.
 

XUSNORDIE

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Not truly a 'war story' but if you have been around aviation you will understand. The wife and I were returning from a trip somewhere (forget now where) and we landed at BWI (Baltimore). When I say we landed I should say WE LANDED!!! At the time we had been seated all the way in the back so we were the last to leave. As we were leaving the pilots were standing and speaking with various people as they left. When we go to the front I said to them: "We damn sure got the second wire tonight!" They both laughed and said, almost in unison, "Yep!"

I bet it wasn't BWI but known as Friendship then maybe?......growing up it was called Friendship Airport, when I flew out for boot camp it was BWI....now it's BWI Thurgood Marshall......:rolleyes:
 
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Navy Guys fly a 3-degree glide slope which is about 500' per minute rate of decent and no flare. That gives a pretty good jolt. Every landing is done like this on land, during shore practice, or on the boat.
3' difference in height makes a difference between hooking the 1 wire and the 4 wire. Pilot guy is looking at the ball/ Fresnel lens not the deck.
 
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Not my story but my kid's. His unit was on a hillside in Afghanistan when they were ambushed by ( I won't use his words) people on the top. Pinned and unable to move they requested air support. A little while later two AH64's arrived and "cleared" the hilltop.

Lesson learned, when the feces hits the air mover you don't care what American military uniform the support is wearing.

And during the Vietnam War, I watched new Phantom pilots practice close air support all day, and night long.
 

XUSNORDIE

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Navy Guys fly a 3-degree glide slope which is about 500' per minute rate of decent and no flare. That gives a pretty good jolt. Every landing is done like this on land, during shore practice, or on the boat.
3' difference in height makes a difference between hooking the 1 wire and the 4 wire. Pilot guy is looking at the ball/ Fresnel lens not the deck.
F14 pilots joked about the forbidden "5th wire" with pilots who got known as "bolter kings".....one was so bad his call sign was changed to "Pooh Bird"...he was my Div Officer for a brief period of time...
 

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I bet it wasn't BWI but known as Friendship then maybe?......growing up it was called Friendship Airport, when I flew out for boot camp it was BWI....now it's BWI Thurgood Marshall......:rolleyes:

I have family members and friends buried at the Friendship cemetery, which is just outside of the airport.
 
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