A big shock at the hospital today.

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I disagree. If the person is thinking of doing harm, the security in place with the picture and driver's license etc might actually make them stop and think and change their mind.

Those would be the thoughts of a rational person.

The most horrendous of these recent notorious acts have been committed by people (men) who are clearly not rational.

Laws prevent only the law-abiding from breaking them; not so for the lawless.

Monty

P. S. Infant security at hospitals is a big deal.
 
Here they check your ID, find out who your visiting, verify the person and room #, then take your photo and issue a sticky badge with your photo on it, you have to wear all the time you are on property. They are good for one day only.
I was quite pleased they had that level of security when I visited my granddaughter and her newborn daughter last month . My first great-great granddaughter.
Was that Cabrini Hospital?
 
The day after the election, I have to drive my mom up to Columbia for an MRI and a consult with her surgeon at the University of Missouri Medical Center. I suppose we'll see if the security situation has improved.

Last time we went, they were so obsessed with people being properly masked, that one could probably have open-carried a pistol on one's hip without drawing notice. As long as one were properly wearing one's face diaper, of course.

And here we go again, with the authorities furiously beating the Kung Flu drums for the coming winter of darkness and death. Sigh.
 
Security in health care facilities is like everywhere else. It all depends upon the people. Last year, we remodeled to enhance safety and somewhat contain an active shooter. Yesterday, I went to one of the copiers to copy an active shooter article out of a publication. Copier didn't work so went to another copier near the entrance to copy it. Noticed that both doors off from unlocked front entrance were propped open. Once a shooter came in front door, they'd have ready access to entire building. Hmmm... yeah. Spending the bucks to remodel fixed that...
 
I did a security eval for a local Level 1 Trauma Center and found it seriously wanting. The basically said "Ok, Thanks" and did not make any of the recommended changes. What the hell is the point of having a Magnatometer and metal detector to enter the ER BUT not for the main hospital?? You can literally walk an extra 35 feet and enter unobstructed.
 
A while back I had one of those "Help! I've fallen and can't get up episodes. All thanks to an over long MRI screwing up my ears and problem with Menier's disease. S here I am in the ER and after changing into one of those famoud air conditioned gown security comes in and takes everything from my pants pockets. Big freakout because, OMG, he has a knife in his pockets. Next thing I know I'm being threatened with jail time for bringing a weapon into the hospital. Finally got it straightened out and even got my knife back when they released me. Normally, I have my back up gun in my front pants pocket. Still haven't figured out why it wasn't there when I fell.
Paul B.
 
A while back I had one of those "Help! I've fallen and can't get up episodes. Normally, I have my back up gun in my front pants pocket. Still haven't figured out why it wasn't there when I fell.

eh Paul, what do you think at 84, perhaps turn in your car keys ? (holy crap)
 
My take...their house, their rules. Either respect them or leave. I'd exoect no less if it was someone visiting my place.
 
As a person who has worked in hospitals for most of my career I can say that after you've had your life seriously threatened a few times by angry friends of a stabbed biker or an angry family member a bit of increased security is appreciated. Will it be effective? Maybe, maybe not.
But, I can certainly understand the opposition to increased security also.
 
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eh Paul, what do you think at 84, perhaps turn in your car keys ? (holy crap)

Not only no, but HELL NO! No problem with my driving. The problem is in my ears. It's called Meniere's disease, AKA vertigo Still haven't figured out why I couldn't get up the day it happened. Hasn't happened since. Probably an after effect from the chemo I was getting Also could be from the two plus hour MRI I had a few days before that left me rather wonky. Seems like all the clattering and screechingly loud noises affect the balance
Paul B.
 

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