.41 Magnum questions...

[needsmostuff]

Thanks guys. The grips got to go for sure. Thanks for the info.

Well, I disagree with all the opinions that the grips are not worth fixing.
I see a pair of grips that could easily be brought around to very serviceable and really deserve to stay with the gun. What others are seeing as a repaired crack I believe is simply a scratch. The scratches ( on the gun and the grips) are like a signature from the man that owned the gun and a link.
That said you don't have to shoot the gun with those grips! Just respect them enough to fix them and keep them with the gun,,,,, They have 50 years of use invested in them.

 

[needsmostuff]

Back in the day gun writers called the .41 mag a "tweener" caliber... between a .357 magnum and a .44 magnum.

With the 44mags bore at .429 ( actually a 43 caliber) and the 357 at .357 The 41mag at .410 is much closer to the 44 than the 357.
Silly gun writers.

 

[JohnL]

The 58 was a fixed sight version & with different grips, hammer & trigger. More a duty version.

That is so. I am familiar with the 58 and am considering buying a "super" Model 10 or 13. SFPD officers may have carried them but the official side arm was the Model 57 in the early 1970s.

 

[FLUndertaker]

The 58 was a fixed sight version & with different grips, hammer & trigger. More a duty version.

Right. Perfect for beat officers.

 

[contender]

needsmostuff,,, I think the grips may well have a repaired toe piece. I've seen quite a few of those breaks,, where the corner breaks off, at the locator pin hole. Improper removal, stresses that point. And often, repaired after they break. I'd keep them with the gun,, but if you wanted to make the gun look a little better,, an unbroken set of grips can be easily found. Owners preferences.

 

[woodperson]

Nothing wrong with those grips that could not be fixed. But...for actual shooting I have a pair of Herret's on my .41 Mag. and extended grips from Texas Grips on my .357. And...lots of sets of various grips I have "tried." At some point it got to be a sickness. I get about equal accuracy for the first few shots with almost any of the grips. But am more comfortable with the sets I currently use for full power loads and extended shooting, neither of which I get to do enough these days.

I do reload and do shoot reduced PC loads most of the time.

 

[needsmostuff]

needsmostuff,,, I think the grips may well have a repaired toe piece. I've seen quite a few of those breaks,, where the corner breaks off, at the locator pin hole. Improper removal, stresses that point. And often, repaired after they break. I'd keep them with the gun,, but if you wanted to make the gun look a little better,, an unbroken set of grips can be easily found. Owners preferences.

Yessir, I do see that mark and it is where many of them break, but.
If you look closely the mark does not extend to the edges. It also has a "gouged look "not the clean break look. Plus it does not follow the grain line like most breaks do.
Broken, maybe. But you never know from pictures till you hold them in your hand.
Either way those grips could very easily be brought up to an" acceptable with a story to tell" level that new grips could never convey.
That and proper vintage grips in good condition are certainly getting harder and more expensive to find.

EDIT,,,, OOOPS
Reviewing the pictures I now see the crack you were speaking of ,,,,,, on the left side,,,,,,,,, I was looking on the right side.
Yup that looks like a crack , but I'd still fix them.

 

[rugerguy]

I agree with Contender, and that was a "bad" repair as I noted above, the gap being close to "closed" on the ends, but too much glue in the middle, that is not a scratch, many,many grips split, break off at the 'toe' due to improper " fits", binding on the locating pin..........unless you are 'proficient' at "refitting/rebreaking, regluing' the offended piece and /or are good with proper staining, filling of "bad repairs" , it is not worth the effort especially being they are the wrong grips, as I noted above, for that year s gun anyway, make it right, make it nice again...Happy Thanksgiving!

 

[Springer2]

The 41 magnum is a fine round and a personal favorite. Recoil is at least as much a factor based on the grips and gun weight as anything. When Bill Jordan and Elmer Keith were musing about the perfect LE gun back in the 60s, they thought of the 41. The projected load would be a 200 grain bullet at about 1100 FPS give or take. I load a 210 that averages about 1079, shoots lights out at 25 yards and is very comfortable out of our 41 Redhawk. There is a lot in reserve if you need it but that standard load is my favorite. In fact, that is the 41 in the avatar.

 

[gnappi]

With the 44mags bore at .429 ( actually a 43 caliber) and the 357 at .357 The 41mag at .410 is much closer to the 44 than the 357.
Silly gun writers.

Your facts are correct but that doesn't change that it actually IS between the two calibers so in fact the .41 is a tweener

 

[needsmostuff]

Your facts are correct but that doesn't change that it actually IS between the two calibers so in fact the .41 is a tweener

Tis true. Guess they could not justify a 39 caliber get in the middle.
Guess that makes this a Tweener also.

 

[gnappi]

Yup.

 

[Groo]

Groo here
The 41 is one of my most liked guns.
When the 41 first came out some pointed out it had more foot pounds then a 44mag [44 240gr at 1200 vs 41 210gr at 1400]
It shot flatter, faster and drove deeper in game....
From a leveraction ,the 41mag is a true beast.
Match the bullets to your game, 170gr for deer etc, 210 flat nose for bigger , heavy case for the "Big Stuff"
My "fun" load is a 215gr swc cast loaded with mag primers,full to the bullet load of trailboss and a heavy crimp.
Similar to the "police" load...

 

[Ruger Accumulator]

Groo here
Match the bullets to your game, 170gr for deer etc, 210 flat nose for bigger , heavy case for the "Big Stuff"
My "fun" load is a 215gr swc cast loaded with mag primers,full to the bullet load of trailboss and a heavy crimp.
Similar to the "police" load...

Do what you do best!

 

[Onty]

If bigger game is in question, like wild boar or elk, this is the bullet I would use:

See https://www.mp-molds.com/product/mp-413-265-wnfp-41-cal-hollow-point-mold-multichoice/

As you could see, mold is available as PB, GC, both could be combined with various HP versions.

Lunch FP version at 1100 fps, and it will go right through any game in lower 48.