Acorn
Buckeye
Just for conversation. If I were to send my .357 Max. back to Ruger, in light of the recall, would they repair it?
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Acorn
Buckeye
Sorry I meant would they repair it.
Fixed it.
Fixed it.
rkrcpa
Single-Sixer
What recall and what repair?
I think they would keep it.
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Stopsign32v
Bearcat
Wait which revolver is a 357 max?
"Wait which revolver is a 357 max?"
It WAS a Blackhawk with a longer cylinder to accept the .357 Maximum cartridge.
That are a blast to shoot (both literally and figuratively)
Search the forum about the Ruger .357 Maximum and you will get a wealth of information/schooling on what they are and happend.
It WAS a Blackhawk with a longer cylinder to accept the .357 Maximum cartridge.
That are a blast to shoot (both literally and figuratively)
Search the forum about the Ruger .357 Maximum and you will get a wealth of information/schooling on what they are and happend.
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Acorn
Buckeye
People tried doing things with the Max's for which it wasn't intended, leading to bad press, (top strap flame cutting)Bill Ruger decided to scrap the idea and recall the ones sold and scrap the product in factory inventories.
In a nutshell.
I've heard/read they will try to keep it unless you fight them hard. I do not believe they will touch in any other manner.
If you have one; don't send back. They will try to keep it. Best thing to do is send to Jack Huntington for a 500 Maximum conversion
rkrcpa
Single-Sixer
Fully aware of the recall and the reasons for it. I was more interested in the concept of a "repair" as I had never heard that before.
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Acorn
Buckeye
Well you asked what recall.
As far as a repair, you never heard of sending a gun back for a repair?
My Max. doesn't need any repairs but being they were recalled I was wondering how the factory would handle it.
Theoretically speaking
As far as a repair, you never heard of sending a gun back for a repair?
My Max. doesn't need any repairs but being they were recalled I was wondering how the factory would handle it.
Theoretically speaking
contender
Ruger Guru
Ruger has never issued a RECALL on the .357 Maximums. Yes,, they did stop production. Yes,, they scrapped about 5000 guns. Yes,, the supposed issue was "top strap flame cutting."
BUT NO RECALL WAS EVER ISSUED!
If a person does send in one for "repairs" as noted above,, they WILL try & keep it. Calling it unsafe & offer a replacement.
NEVER,, and I mean NEVER send them a .357 Maxi. Lawyers abound & push for certain things.
Now,, a .357 Maxi is actually a very good gun AS IS,, and shouldn't be chopped, cut up & customized.
BUT NO RECALL WAS EVER ISSUED!
If a person does send in one for "repairs" as noted above,, they WILL try & keep it. Calling it unsafe & offer a replacement.
NEVER,, and I mean NEVER send them a .357 Maxi. Lawyers abound & push for certain things.
Now,, a .357 Maxi is actually a very good gun AS IS,, and shouldn't be chopped, cut up & customized.
No , the best thing to do with one of these fabulous revolvers is to leave it alone. They aren't making any more of these ( but they should). Just my humble $.02.
Huskerguy72
Single-Sixer
What were people trying to do to the Max that was a problem?
At the time of the 357 Max introduction, the gun world was being taken over by the dubious search for maximum velocity. The 357 max comes along and the lure of high speed caused folks to load light, 125 gr bullets over large doses of powder. The resulting heat and blast in the forcing cone area produced flame cutting in the top strap and premature erosion of the barrel throat.
contender
Ruger Guru
"What were people trying to do to the Max that was a problem?'
The gun/caliber combo was basically designed for hunting & silhouette shooting,, using heavy bullets. 180 grn mostly. Remington built some 158 grn factory ammo that was using a hotter burning powder,, and the 158 grn bullets. This was part of it.
And of course,, reloaders,, dropping down in bullet weights,, using 110 grn & 125 grn bullets,, AND a fast burning powder to "get more velocity" (you know the type,, "gotta have more power, and velocity is king," types.)
To that end,, there were complaints of "top strap flame cutting" just above the gap between the cylinder & the barrel.
Well, yes,, you can get top strap flame cutting there. But the Maxi was not & is not the ONLY gun to have that happen. I've seen other guns with the same issue, from several makers. Even with that,, the cutting actually work hardens and stops cutting. Basically becomes a "non-issue."
Next,, we had a "gun writer" named Bob Milek, who wrote an article in G&A that trashed the Maxi. It was titled; "Too much too soon?"
Bill Ruger got pizzed,, and halted production, and scrapped about 5000 of the 16000 or so built.
Bob Milek's attitude & article was one of the main reasons the Maxi was stopped.
The gun/caliber combo was basically designed for hunting & silhouette shooting,, using heavy bullets. 180 grn mostly. Remington built some 158 grn factory ammo that was using a hotter burning powder,, and the 158 grn bullets. This was part of it.
And of course,, reloaders,, dropping down in bullet weights,, using 110 grn & 125 grn bullets,, AND a fast burning powder to "get more velocity" (you know the type,, "gotta have more power, and velocity is king," types.)
To that end,, there were complaints of "top strap flame cutting" just above the gap between the cylinder & the barrel.
Well, yes,, you can get top strap flame cutting there. But the Maxi was not & is not the ONLY gun to have that happen. I've seen other guns with the same issue, from several makers. Even with that,, the cutting actually work hardens and stops cutting. Basically becomes a "non-issue."
Next,, we had a "gun writer" named Bob Milek, who wrote an article in G&A that trashed the Maxi. It was titled; "Too much too soon?"
Bill Ruger got pizzed,, and halted production, and scrapped about 5000 of the 16000 or so built.
Bob Milek's attitude & article was one of the main reasons the Maxi was stopped.
contender
Ruger Guru
I'll add a bit more.
The gentleman who assisted Bill Ruger & Bill Jr. in the development of the .357 Maximum was David Bradshaw. He was a Handgun Silhouette Champion. We also wrote the initial introduction article for G&A magazine.
And a few years ago,, David & a gentleman named Lee Martin designed a cast lead, gas checked, powder coated bullet just for the Maxi. They both tested it a lot, and then shared their info with others. Mountain Molds built the bullet molds. The bullet comes out at about 194 grns weight. Several of us Maxi fans got molds. Sadly,, Mountain Molds decided to retire,, and now another company (Accurate Molds I think) offers the mold.
But the bullet design & such is EXCELLENT. If the caster makes the bullets correctly,, and the shooter does their part,, it's easy to get 3"-4" groups at 100 yds with open sights.
Dick Thompson took the first deer with a Maxi, using the Bradshaw/Martin bullet. That was in Idaho. And unless I'm mistaken,, I'm the second person to take a deer with one using that bullet.
The gentleman who assisted Bill Ruger & Bill Jr. in the development of the .357 Maximum was David Bradshaw. He was a Handgun Silhouette Champion. We also wrote the initial introduction article for G&A magazine.
And a few years ago,, David & a gentleman named Lee Martin designed a cast lead, gas checked, powder coated bullet just for the Maxi. They both tested it a lot, and then shared their info with others. Mountain Molds built the bullet molds. The bullet comes out at about 194 grns weight. Several of us Maxi fans got molds. Sadly,, Mountain Molds decided to retire,, and now another company (Accurate Molds I think) offers the mold.
But the bullet design & such is EXCELLENT. If the caster makes the bullets correctly,, and the shooter does their part,, it's easy to get 3"-4" groups at 100 yds with open sights.
Dick Thompson took the first deer with a Maxi, using the Bradshaw/Martin bullet. That was in Idaho. And unless I'm mistaken,, I'm the second person to take a deer with one using that bullet.
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contender
Ruger Guru
And a bit more.
Here's a picture of the Bradshaw/Martin bullet & a loaded round.
Here's a picture of the Bradshaw/Martin bullet & a loaded round.
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