357 bullets without cannelure

[akmania]

Do you like or use jacketed bullets WITHOUT a cannelure to load 357 mag.? Do you use a Lee factory crimp die to crimp them?

 

[NC FNS]

Well, I've loaded some plated double-ended wadcutters in 38 special, and by gum, if you overcrimp the slightest bit, they won't chamber. I liked them a lot better once I figured that out.

 

[Johnnu2]

I've used an RCBS taper crimp die for MANY years.......... never a proble

J.

 

[akmania]

I've used an RCBS taper crimp die for MANY years.......... never a proble

J.

Did you use it on bullets with no cannelure?

 

[Mobuck]

Taper crimp dies work fine even w/o a cannelure.

 

[akmania]

Taper crimp dies work fine even w/o a cannelure.

Ok, I've read do use , don't use Lee factory crimp die for 357 mag jacketed loads.???

I guess I'm over thinking it.

 

[JAYDAWG]

Do you like or use jacketed bullets WITHOUT a cannelure to load 357 mag.?

I have loaded to OAL and canneluer with equal success.

IF you load to OAL below the groove, it is possible, on the low end of the powder weight scale, to produce a projectile that might not reach the end of the barrel. Not good.
Try for yourself and be aware of your results, and enjoy the process of reloading.

Cheers,
JaydaWg

 

[Mobuck]

IMHO, the 'factory crimp die' is better suited to use with rounds such as 380, 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP that headspace on the case mouth.
The 'roll crimp' is better suited for use with revolver and heavier recoiling rounds that tend to 'pull bullets' due to higher recoil. An improperly adjusted 'roll crimp' will create a bulge in the case.

 

[s4s4u]

Do you like or use jacketed bullets WITHOUT a cannelure to load 357 mag.? Do you use a Lee factory crimp die to crimp them?

I think you may be fooling with possible bullet pull unless loading light. Taper crimp is intended for semi-auto firearms that headspace on the case mouth to prevent setback during feeding.

 

[Johnnu2]

I always load light...........

J.

 

[mr surveyor]

This whole Lee Factory Crimp Die (LFCD) thing has been overly confused for many years. There are two types of the Lee FCD. One type is probably the most used is basically a taper crime die for most semi-auto rounds, or one that does a bit of a modified roll crimp for cannelured bullets, The other type of FCD is a collet type that does a stab crimp, generally into a cannelure ... but will basically create a bit of a cannelure in many non-grooved bullets. There's also the carbide ring in the first example that seems to cause grief to many users as it may size down "oversized" bullets. I use both types of the FCD for their given purpose and have never had an issue, but I'm also particular about the type of bullets I use.

just my 2¢


jd

 

[Bigbore5]

I use the Lee collet crimp on bullets that don't have a crimp groove. It will make it's own crimp groove wherever you want it to be.

 

[Mobuck]

^^^Just don't over do it.

 

[GasGuzzler]

I don't use jacketed bullets for .357, I don't use the cannelure on bullets that have one, and I use a Lee FCD on everything I load, regardless of jacketed with or without cannelure, or cast.

 

[s4s4u]

You have to be careful with cast and the FCD. If you apply too much it can swage down the bullet while the case springs back, reducing neck tension. The swaged down bullet can lead to leading in the barrel as well. I've never used a FCD because the crimp die that comes with my RCBS set does just fine.

 

[Wvfarrier]

On my lever action loads....I crimp super tight but on my wheel gun loads, just enough to keep them in place