353 Cassul

[Redstick]

Here's a link:
http://www.sixguns.com/range/fa353.htm

Will the Blackhawk .357 shoot the .353?
Redhawk okay to try it out in?

 

[MAC702]

The 353 is the model number of a Freedom Arms revolver chambered in .357 Magnum...

 

[Redstick]

From the article:
"Don't let the name fool you, it handles all .38 Special and .357 Magnum brass and loadings and there is no 353 Casull ammunition as such. At least not yet."

Yeah; I'm asking about the .353 loads. Will Rugers do?
How bout shootin' .353 Cassul loads in a #1 Rifle?

 

[MAC702]

I'll repeat, the 353 is the model number of the revolver chambered in .357 Magnum.

The extra performance listed in the article is from hot handloads for a revolver that can take it, just as there are hot handloads for .45 Colts that are built to take it.

The remark about "not yet" was a joke by the writer. That article is probably 20 years old or so.

The .454 was their first revolver of this type. They followed it with a Model 252 in .22 Long Rifle. The 252 designation was because of the 4-5-4 pattern. Same with the 3-5-3 pattern for a revolver chambered in a round that started with the number 3, in this case, .357 Magnum.

 

[Axehandle]

Don't let all the nay sayers fool you... You read the article. The FA 353 has no equal... The loads developed specifically for it will out perform the 357 Maximum... DO NOT Shoot these loads in your Ruger. The Ruger is not built to the same tolerances or with the same materials as the FA.

 

[BlkHawk73]

Just the chart showing the percentage differences is enough to tell me the loads for the 353 are NOT for use the the Ruger. I've only examined one FA and while I love my Rugers, the FA stuff is exquisite. 8)

 

[flatgate]

Axe has it nailed. The F-A .353 is incredibly strong.

Heavy, too!

flatgate

 

[REP1954]

If you own a New Model 357 Blackhawk and you want to increase the performance of it I would say buy another cylinder and have it rechambered for a Bain & Davis 357 or a 356GNR which is one of Gary Reeders cartridges. With one of these two cartridges you can increase your performance and keep your pressures down to reasonable levels that fall into a catagory that the New Model 357 Blackhawk can handle. Now you have a convertible if you bought a new cylinder and didnt rechamber your original one. For some reason back in the 1970's I use to insist on hot rodding my 357 NMBH's and on aleast 3 occasions I had locked up my cylinder by pushing the recoil plates back and filling the void with the primer and have broke one firing pin. I've never shot the 353 but I would think one better make sure your wearing good head gear.

 

[azrugershooter]

The 353 casull is a 357 magnum case loaded to over 60,000cup like the 454. It is the same 357 case that has been around since 1935. Although when loaded to these pressure levels the the brass has VERY SHORT life! As for your question redstick I did try a few of these rounds in my .357 redhawk a few years ago. Now I had a friend that work for one of the major bullet manufactures in their ballistics lab with all the proper pressure equipment. So I wouldn't recommend you trying on your own. But the Redhawk did shoot the load and didn't blow up as seems to be commonly believed.

 

[REP1954]

The 353 casull is a 357 magnum case loaded to over 60,000cup like the 454. It is the same 357 case that has been around since 1935. Although when loaded to these pressure levels the the brass has VERY SHORT life! As for your question redstick I did try a few of these rounds in my .357 redhawk a few years ago. Now I had a friend that work for one of the major bullet manufactures in their ballistics lab with all the proper pressure equipment. So I wouldn't recommend you trying on your own. But the Redhawk did shoot the load and didn't blow up as seems to be commonly believed.

I dont believe anyone said anything about blowing your gun apart but more to the fact of beating it to death. The loose tolerances that the stock Rugers are built to would only cause extreme wear and hardship on a gun that would otherwise last ages. I would not put cylinder failure out of the question if not right away over a period of time.

 

[BlkHawk73]

If you own a New Model 357 Blackhawk and you want to increase the performance

You buy a .357 max, or a .41 mag, or a...

 

[azrugershooter]

The 353 casull is a 357 magnum case loaded to over 60,000cup like the 454. It is the same 357 case that has been around since 1935. Although when loaded to these pressure levels the the brass has VERY SHORT life! As for your question redstick I did try a few of these rounds in my .357 redhawk a few years ago. Now I had a friend that work for one of the major bullet manufactures in their ballistics lab with all the proper pressure equipment. So I wouldn't recommend you trying on your own. But the Redhawk did shoot the load and didn't blow up as seems to be commonly believed.

I dont believe anyone said anything about blowing your gun apart but more to the fact of beating it to death. The loose tolerances that the stock Rugers are built to would only cause extreme wear and hardship on a gun that would otherwise last ages. I would not put cylinder failure out of the question if not right away over a period of time.

I don't believe I said anyone from this site said that.

 

[REP1954]

I might have jumped the gun and considered that those who were participating in the thread were included as others outside the thread were not seperated in your statement. Please forgive my quickness to snap.

 

[azrugershooter]

No worries. not a big thing.