300 RCM
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chet15
Hawkeye
It might be a great cartridge, but just like the WSM's and the SUM's of years past, ammo will probably be a problem in the future.
I really don't think Ruger is selling enough of them, so it would not surprise me if they are dropped from their catalog sometime in the future.
Chet15
I really don't think Ruger is selling enough of them, so it would not surprise me if they are dropped from their catalog sometime in the future.
Chet15
That's an interesting reply chet 15. I guess I'd never thought about that possibility. Perhaps I should wait and see how the cartride fairs. Still, it is intriguing to me. I'm thinking of something to replace my 338 Win Mag. I like that cartridge, but dog gone it, mine kicks like the blazes and I'm shooting plain jane 180 gr. Federal ammo. I can't imagine what it'd be like if I shot some 250 grainers through it.
I'd like to get a RUM, probably the 338, but cannot find any brass.I'm getting a 35 Whelen next week as a compromise. Hope the RCMs survive production a few years. If they do get dropped, maybe we can pick one up cheap on closeout. If I can find some brass that is for sure the next rifle that will join the stable.
I'm thinking maybe I should buy some brass, providing I can find it, even if I don't buy the rifle right now. Well, I can't buy it now anyway. I'm in the middle-east on deployment, but I could buy the brass and have it sent home. That way, it wouldn't nnatter if they went out of production, I'd still have brass.
picketpin
Buckeye
I thought that the Ruger proprieitory cartridges were an idea looking for an answer when they did it.
A FEW of the WSMs have worked out and become succesful and even fewer WSSMs. Almost NONE of the RSUM or RUM have been very successful and it sure doesn't seem like many.any have made the transition over to being widely chambered by a variety of manufacturers.
The 204 Ruger filled a niche and has become successful across the board and is now chambered in a bunch of different rifles. However, even that has a limited market as the disconiuance of the #1 in everything other than the "B" sort of shows.
The marketing guys got the brain wave, HEY we can make money on both ends if we do these propriatory cases. Heck it worked once.
The problem is they are filling niches that simply don't exist and nobody has made a cartridge in the last 100 years that really made it UNLESS everybody ends up making rifles for it and chambering for it.
All you have to do is look at Newton, Lazeroni, Dakota and even Weatherby to see what happens when you build your rifle around a cartridge that only you chamber and that isn't popular enough to force the other guys to chamber it.
Heck, even Weatherby finally had to offer the MKV in standrad rifle chamberings to stay in business. The market just isn't big enough to support this any longer, if it ever was. UNLESS you want to be the maker of high dollar custom or semi custom rifles for a few rich guys.
I personally look for most if not all of the RCMs to drop off the charts in the next ten years, and I be suprised if it takes that long.
So, if I were to buy one I'd make sure I had lots of brass and components and don't even think about the down side when and if you ever decide to sell it.
Unless you find another RUGER guy that you can convince that this is the cats meow, your going to have a hard time moving these rifles in the future regardless of the cost.
My pennies worth.
Ross
A FEW of the WSMs have worked out and become succesful and even fewer WSSMs. Almost NONE of the RSUM or RUM have been very successful and it sure doesn't seem like many.any have made the transition over to being widely chambered by a variety of manufacturers.
The 204 Ruger filled a niche and has become successful across the board and is now chambered in a bunch of different rifles. However, even that has a limited market as the disconiuance of the #1 in everything other than the "B" sort of shows.
The marketing guys got the brain wave, HEY we can make money on both ends if we do these propriatory cases. Heck it worked once.
The problem is they are filling niches that simply don't exist and nobody has made a cartridge in the last 100 years that really made it UNLESS everybody ends up making rifles for it and chambering for it.
All you have to do is look at Newton, Lazeroni, Dakota and even Weatherby to see what happens when you build your rifle around a cartridge that only you chamber and that isn't popular enough to force the other guys to chamber it.
Heck, even Weatherby finally had to offer the MKV in standrad rifle chamberings to stay in business. The market just isn't big enough to support this any longer, if it ever was. UNLESS you want to be the maker of high dollar custom or semi custom rifles for a few rich guys.
I personally look for most if not all of the RCMs to drop off the charts in the next ten years, and I be suprised if it takes that long.
So, if I were to buy one I'd make sure I had lots of brass and components and don't even think about the down side when and if you ever decide to sell it.
Unless you find another RUGER guy that you can convince that this is the cats meow, your going to have a hard time moving these rifles in the future regardless of the cost.
My pennies worth.
Ross
Interesting reply. The sad truth is that you're probably right, even though I don't want you too be. It seems like there is a plethora of 30 caliber chamberings. I guess one should look at the longevity of some of the older chamberings to make a scientific wild ass guess as to which ones will survive and which ones will not. It leaves me wondering what I should do. Perhaps I will just put a muzzle break on my 338 and call it good.
luvmyruger
Blackhawk
mmm? 300???? what is wrong with a long 300??
300 H&H :wink:
300 H&H :wink:
luvmyruger, I have nothing against any of the long 300's at all, but I like the idea of a 20" barrel. It's light, it's maneuverable in the woods and in treestands. Theoretically, it should be a stiffer barrel based on the 4" less of barrel which in theory should make it a little more accurate as well as consistent. I have owned several ruger 77's, and my experience is that their barrels are a little wimpy for my tastes, and up until I bought the Hawkeye I currently have, every ruger rifle I've owned has had serious accuracy issues, and in my unprofessional opinion, some of the accuracy issues can be attributed to the quality and dimensions of the barrel. Also the triggers have been a major contributor. That is just my opinion though.
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