1911 45 acp

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I only learned about the 70/80 situation about a week ago. So I have done some research. I should have just found a gun and started shooting. I am more confused now than ever! Haha.

I have a field bag that hangs across the body and lands at the hip. It has a spot for concealed carry. My 5 12" and 4 5/8" Blackhawks fit perfectly and it is surprisingly quick access. I always wear it in the woods. It carry's 1st aid, water bottle, extra ammo, phone. I love a chest holster as well and will probably end up with one.

Got range near you that has rentals? That's the best way to find out which you like. All mine are 70's. Better trigger, imho. Confusion is not uncommon with the 1911 platform. It's the most copied, modified, customized, and tweaked semi-auto in existence. Even double stack versions are out there in other calibers than .45.

Trouble is they're like potato chips - you can't eat just one. 😁

Btw, it sounds like you reload so you may not be interested in factory ammo, but if you are Underwood has some 255grn +P hardcast flat nose that are great for hard to kill critters like hogs.

 
"Trouble is they're like potato chips - you can't eat just one. 😁"

Ain't that the truth. I have a few 1911s. Two have been worked over by the late F. Bob Chow. He's famous as a 1911 gunsmith who built target and combat style 1911. His target guns were in direct competition with the Pachmayr gun shop for 1911 based target pistols. I knew the old man personally from way back when. He built my first 1911 back when I was 22 years old. I've since had another built plus I found another 1911 that may be their work, a Caspian frame and Colt Gold Cup slide. The gun is very accurate running two in wadcutter groups at 50 yards using a friend's Ransome rest.
The 1911 number four is actually a Colt Combat Commander and is my usual CCW piece. That one is strictly stock except whoever had it before me had a trigger job done. Not bad but not as good as on the "Chow" guns. Just fine for CCW though. The only work I've done on it was replace that useless grip safety that allows the slide to eat holes in the web of my hand with a beavertail type. and polish the feed ramp and throat of the gun. I've thought of replacing the sights with better ones but as most of the time I shoot it by sighting over the gun (hard to explain) when shooting defensive practice rounds rather than trying to use the small sights, I just haven't bothered doing a replacement.


Om magazines, I use 8 round Wilsons in all the guns including the Commander. When carrying the Commander, it's the 8 round Wilson with two 10 round Wilsons for back up. There's also an S&W M60 .38 Spl. in a pocket as a bug.
Paul B.
 
I have been a dedicated revolver shooter Al of my life. I own everything from NAA 22 lr to BFR 475 linebaugh. I have settled on the 44 special in a Ruger Nm flattop as my all time favorite.

I am now ready to try a 1911 45 acp and give it a fair chance. I called a trusted friend and asked advice on what manufacturer to look to for an all steel 5" model. H his text was only one word, "RUGER". So it begins.

I bought my Ruger when they first came out. I've been very happy with it.


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I do load ammo, but would rather go to the dentist! Well not quite, but I find it a chore. Thank you for the heads up on underwood ammo.
 
I have been a dedicated revolver shooter Al of my life. I own everything from NAA 22 lr to BFR 475 linebaugh. I have settled on the 44 special in a Ruger Nm flattop as my all time favorite.

I am now ready to try a 1911 45 acp and give it a fair chance. I called a trusted friend and asked advice on what manufacturer to look to for an all steel 5" model. H his text was only one word, "RUGER". So it begins.
I have always been a Colt man until they started using cast parts. It's also the reason I would not by a Ruger either. Admittedly there are traditional cast parts and there are MIM cast parts. I know Colt scaled back on the MIM cast parts because of early failures so they started mixing the parts using forged on high stress parts. I have heard that Ruger is replacing its traditional cast parts with more and more MIM parts. Hopefully and probably Ruger MIM will be better parts.

I admit that if "traditional" cast parts are made thicker, heavier, and are adequately hard they can last a long time. Of course overstressing a cast part will result in failure far sooner than a high quality heat treated forged part. A cast part is hard all the way through and they have porosity, (polite word for air holes). The forged part can be made hard on the outside and softer on the inside giving it flexibility.

Forged parts can be made hard on the outside and softer on the inside resulting in the forged part being able to take tremendous shock and still not shatter. This was known for thousands of years back in antiquity when making swords. There was a reason ancient swordsmiths never made and used cast swords.

I would not trade my "original" all forged Colts for every cast 1911 on the planet.

Having said all that I will state that if the 1911 had never been the standard issue U.S. Service Pistol today it would not even be much more than a footnote in history. Its history is what keeps its sales going on, not any real advantaged over modern pistols that are often lighter, smaller, feed better, are just as accurate, and have higher capacity and are just as durable and often cost less.

Myths die hard as well as people think the .45 acp is the superior stopping round as compared to the 9x19 and this has proven with modern bullets not to be true at all. In actuality the .45 acp is inferior as it has less penetration, less capacity, more recoil, a more loping trajectory, less comfortable to carry, less concealable, ammo more costly, less reliable with expanding bullets and people generally shoot the .45 acp less accurately because of its higher recoil. Recovery time between shots is less as well. These numerous reasons are why the 9x19 was and still is the most popular law enforcement and military caliber in the world.

I have used the 9x19 out of a short barreled Glock on an 180 lb Deer and it killed it with one shot. That is a real life experience as compared to gun rag propaganda by blow hard gun writers.

I use my 1911's for occasional range fun but a high capacity 9x19 is my carry gun and home defense gun.

If you do not own a 1911 buy one for nostalgia. I would search around for an "original" forged Colt in good condition. When you show up at the range you will get oohs and ahhs with an original Colt. The cast guns of any brand will not receive even a second glance because knowledgeable 1911 owners know the difference between the original and modern made 1911 pistols.
 
I have always been a Colt man until they started using cast parts. It's also the reason I would not by a Ruger either. Admittedly there are traditional cast parts and there are MIM cast parts. I know Colt scaled back on the MIM cast parts because of early failures so they started mixing the parts using forged on high stress parts. I have heard that Ruger is replacing its traditional cast parts with more and more MIM parts. Hopefully and probably Ruger MIM will be better parts.

I admit that if "traditional" cast parts are made thicker, heavier, and are adequately hard they can last a long time. Of course overstressing a cast part will result in failure far sooner than a high quality heat treated forged part. A cast part is hard all the way through and they have porosity, (polite word for air holes). The forged part can be made hard on the outside and softer on the inside giving it flexibility.

Forged parts can be made hard on the outside and softer on the inside resulting in the forged part being able to take tremendous shock and still not shatter. This was known for thousands of years back in antiquity when making swords. There was a reason ancient swordsmiths never made and used cast swords.

I would not trade my "original" all forged Colts for every cast 1911 on the planet.

Having said all that I will state that if the 1911 had never been the standard issue U.S. Service Pistol today it would not even be much more than a footnote in history. Its history is what keeps its sales going on, not any real advantaged over modern pistols that are often lighter, smaller, feed better, are just as accurate, and have higher capacity and are just as durable and often cost less.

Myths die hard as well as people think the .45 acp is the superior stopping round as compared to the 9x19 and this has proven with modern bullets not to be true at all. In actuality the .45 acp is inferior as it has less penetration, less capacity, more recoil, a more loping trajectory, less comfortable to carry, less concealable, ammo more costly, less reliable with expanding bullets and people generally shoot the .45 acp less accurately because of its higher recoil. Recovery time between shots is less as well. These numerous reasons are why the 9x19 was and still is the most popular law enforcement and military caliber in the world.

I have used the 9x19 out of a short barreled Glock on an 180 lb Deer and it killed it with one shot. That is a real life experience as compared to gun rag propaganda by blow hard gun writers.

I use my 1911's for occasional range fun but a high capacity 9x19 is my carry gun and home defense gun.

If you do not own a 1911 buy one for nostalgia. I would search around for an "original" forged Colt in good condition. When you show up at the range you will get oohs and ahhs with an original Colt. The cast guns of any brand will not receive even a second glance because knowledgeable 1911 owners know the difference between the original and modern made 1911 pistols.
The history of weaponry is the history of mankind. Technology marches on, but history remains. It's why I have 1911's and a few antique arms going back to the mid 1800's. :)

One of my favorite quotes from Jeff Cooper illustrates this:

"If you don't understand weapons you don't understand fighting. If you don't understand fighting you don't understand war. If you don't understand war you don't understand history. And if you don't understand history you might as well live with your head in a sack."
 
I do load ammo, but would rather go to the dentist! Well not quite, but I find it a chore. Thank you for the heads up on underwood ammo.

You're welcome. I've been patronizing them for quite a few years and while expensive they make superb ammo, and are a trustworthy company that I enjoy doing business with. :)
 
I have been a dedicated revolver shooter Al of my life. I own everything from NAA 22 lr to BFR 475 linebaugh. I have settled on the 44 special in a Ruger Nm flattop as my all time favorite.

I am now ready to try a 1911 45 acp and give it a fair chance. I called a trusted friend and asked advice on what manufacturer to look to for an all steel 5" model. H his text was only one word, "RUGER". So it begins.
My Ruger 45acp never ever let me down! The beauty is it gets
along well with all my other Ruger pistols and Revolvers! Life is good!!
 
I have always been a Colt man until they started using cast parts. It's also the reason I would not by a Ruger either. Admittedly there are traditional cast parts and there are MIM cast parts. I know Colt scaled back on the MIM cast parts because of early failures so they started mixing the parts using forged on high stress parts. I have heard that Ruger is replacing its traditional cast parts with more and more MIM parts. Hopefully and probably Ruger MIM will be better parts.

I admit that if "traditional" cast parts are made thicker, heavier, and are adequately hard they can last a long time. Of course overstressing a cast part will result in failure far sooner than a high quality heat treated forged part. A cast part is hard all the way through and they have porosity, (polite word for air holes). The forged part can be made hard on the outside and softer on the inside giving it flexibility.

Forged parts can be made hard on the outside and softer on the inside resulting in the forged part being able to take tremendous shock and still not shatter. This was known for thousands of years back in antiquity when making swords. There was a reason ancient swordsmiths never made and used cast swords.

I would not trade my "original" all forged Colts for every cast 1911 on the planet.

Having said all that I will state that if the 1911 had never been the standard issue U.S. Service Pistol today it would not even be much more than a footnote in history. Its history is what keeps its sales going on, not any real advantaged over modern pistols that are often lighter, smaller, feed better, are just as accurate, and have higher capacity and are just as durable and often cost less.

Myths die hard as well as people think the .45 acp is the superior stopping round as compared to the 9x19 and this has proven with modern bullets not to be true at all. In actuality the .45 acp is inferior as it has less penetration, less capacity, more recoil, a more loping trajectory, less comfortable to carry, less concealable, ammo more costly, less reliable with expanding bullets and people generally shoot the .45 acp less accurately because of its higher recoil. Recovery time between shots is less as well. These numerous reasons are why the 9x19 was and still is the most popular law enforcement and military caliber in the world.

I have used the 9x19 out of a short barreled Glock on an 180 lb Deer and it killed it with one shot. That is a real life experience as compared to gun rag propaganda by blow hard gun writers.

I use my 1911's for occasional range fun but a high capacity 9x19 is my carry gun and home defense gun.

If you do not own a 1911 buy one for nostalgia. I would search around for an "original" forged Colt in good condition. When you show up at the range you will get oohs and ahhs with an original Colt. The cast guns of any brand will not receive even a second glance because knowledgeable 1911 owners know the difference between the original and modern made 1911 pistols.
Wow! That's a whole lot of biased opinion, and you're certainly entitled to it. I agree with not one sentence. But to each their own I guess.
 
The Ruger SR1911 is a good choice. I've never had an issue with mine. Easier to take down and clean than some other 1911's I have owned.
I will also mention that I have own a few cheap Rock Island Armory 1911's in both 45 ACP and 9 mm. Never had an issue with them either.
A basic M3 or M7 leather cross body holster is also a good choice for woods carry.
 
I never got away from my Revolvers but, when
I got my 2011 Ruger SR1911 all changed.

Paper plate groups and all. I had a Master
at the 1911 help me one session with it.
He had one hellish small groups. He said
what a great first 1911. I couldn't believe
it coming from a Master with high grade
1911s, he was impressed and liked the
trigger; good let off, clean, and crisp.

I took me a while to get use to accurately
shoot that 1911. The grip, the trigger
moves straight back, and the movement
of the slide was quite the noticeable
part of firing.

Don't get me wrong I definitely like this
Pistol a lot. It's heavy, but slim, trim, and
safe to operate.

I reload for it; easy, never seem to have to
trim length, low pressure, and reasonably
priced to do so.
 
last week I took possession of an ANIB Full Size SR1911 Night Watchman. Took both it and my Target to the range yesterday, along with the LC Carbine in .45 and a Glock 41 (also in .45 and using the same mags as the LC).

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They are such an absolute joy to shoot.
 
Hard to add anything about the best combat pistol ever made. Certainly, over the past 100 years newer guns have come along with more features. For reliability and simplicity, the JMB design is excellent. I have owned a few Colts and one Kimber, all were great. In my old age, I find the 9 X 19 more handy. With the improved propellants and better bullets they will do what I need. Still, there is room in my collection for a 1911.
 
Have had 1911's from Colt, Springfield, GI surplus and semi custom and all worked as designed. Still have my SA Range Officer and shoot it regularly. Hard to go wrong with any 1911 from a reputable maker.
 
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