458 SOCOM build on a Ruger American

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thomasj

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I got my 10 rd 6BR AICS magazine in today. So I had to try it out. I had to bend the feed lips out a little bit to even get the 500g rounds to feed. It still fails to feed on the second to last round almost every time. But it is useable.
 

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Pauerpilot

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@Pauerpilot good afternoon sir. I was wondering if anyone is currently using your gauges? I've been trying to wait it out but I've been waiting on mine for three months now and I'm getting anxious! I have everything I need minus an optic and a magazine.
Aloha Thmasj! I just got back my gauges. If you need them let me know.

Al
 

Coler2002

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Just an FYI if your submitting a Form 1 don't put model as: American it needs to be: Ruger American. Or at least that's why the examiner failed mine. I resubmitted with the corrected model but I'm back at the beginning of the line.

How long did it take for everyone to receive their barrels?
 

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Man this thread died fast :(

Anyone have any updates? Mine is currently in the safe, because its just too hot to go to the range and spend some quality time with it. I hope to start working up some loads before hunting season starts here
 

Coler2002

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My tax stamp came back the second time and barrel arrived. I need to get the receiver engraved and then install the barrel. I have been a bit preoccupied with some projects around the house but I am excited to get it finished up soon. I will be reaching out to @Pauerpilot to borrow his gauges as soon as I get around to having the receiver engraved.

One of my house projects is Sheetrocking my basement and that forced me to pack up my entire reloading / gun room so everything is a bit chaotic at the moment.
 

thomasj

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Man this thread died fast :(

Anyone have any updates? Mine is currently in the safe, because its just too hot to go to the range and spend some quality time with it. I hope to start working up some loads before hunting season starts here
I got my Bowers 458 suppressor on. I need to come up with some slower rounds it's louder then I expected. Shooting 500g FMJs from blackbutterfly.
 

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I got my Bowers 458 suppressor on. I need to come up with some slower rounds it's louder then I expected. Shooting 500g FMJs from blackbutterfly.

Why not just roll your own? Pick up a cheap single stage press, some powder and primers. It would be cheaper

How much is it per round from black butterfly currently?

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I honestly don't see the benefit of the 458 over the 450 Bushmaster for deer. The Bushmaster already sprays about 10lbs out the other side. Only real benefit is not having to size the 500gr 45-70 bullets for subs.
 

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I honestly don't see the benefit of the 458 over the 450 Bushmaster for deer. The Bushmaster already sprays about 10lbs out the other side. Only real benefit is not having to size the 500gr 45-70 bullets for subs.
Both are good calibers however, I feel that the 458 has a bit more options. The 450 can use .451-.452 diameter bullets. Those are 45 ACP and 45 LC diameters. Those bullets are not ideal for. rifle velocities. There are .451-.452 diameter bullets that are meant for rifle velocities but they tend to be more expensive. The .458 diameter bullets have been around for literally over a century. The selection and variety is more in favor of the 458. Furthermore, the cost is considerably less.
For deer, either will work great. For me, I am out west and I have the opportunity to hunt much larger critters. I want a tough bullet that will not break the bank and be able to put an elk, feral cow, big mule deer, or hog on the ground. Hard cast bullets meant to be used at rifle velocities are an economical choice that I did not find for the 450.
Lastly, I did fire the 450 and 458 in both bolt and AR platforms. Over a wide variety of commercial and hand made loads, my experience is that the 458 is more accurate than the 450. For me, I am an accuracy snob. This was my thought process when I chose the 458 over the 450 and 50 Beowulf.
 

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Hunting season is upon me here win Arizona! I had to send my LabRadar out for servicing. I just got it back. I am going to do some load development on Hornady 410gr Sub-X, 325gr FTX, and Barnes 250gr TSX. The 410 will be sub-sonic. I am planning to use the rifle on deer, elk and feral cows this year. I will post load development, range reports and hopefully hunting results.

Al
 

southernpew

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Hunting season is upon me here win Arizona! I had to send my LabRadar out for servicing. I just got it back. I am going to do some load development on Hornady 410gr Sub-X, 325gr FTX, and Barnes 250gr TSX. The 410 will be sub-sonic. I am planning to use the rifle on deer, elk and feral cows this year. I will post load development, range reports and hopefully hunting results.

Al

I too use a LabRadar. I like mine since I purchased an external trigger.

Have you seen the Garmin unit announced? Looks really simple to use too.

Did you get a chance to shoot those 600gr NOE cast I sent you?
 
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Hunting season is upon me here win Arizona! I had to send my LabRadar out for servicing. I just got it back. I am going to do some load development on Hornady 410gr Sub-X, 325gr FTX, and Barnes 250gr TSX. The 410 will be sub-sonic. I am planning to use the rifle on deer, elk and feral cows this year. I will post load development, range reports and hopefully hunting results.

Al
You can run some of the 45/70 heavies in the 500gr range subsonic as well for some major thump.
 

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I too use a LabRadar. I like mine since I purchased an external trigger.

Have you seen the Garmin unit announced? Looks really simple to use too.

Did you get a chance to shoot those 600gr NOE cast I sent you?
I did shoot them!!!! Holy genetic energy Batman! I had to flare the case mouth quite a bit to seat the bullets properly. I have a couple left. I am holding them for my feral cow hunt. I think that will put one on the ground pretty reliably. Thank you very much for the bullets!

Al
 
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I did shoot them!!!! Holy genetic energy Batman! I had to flare the case mouth quite a bit to seat the bullets properly. I have a couple left. I am holding them for my feral cow hunt. I think that will put one on the ground pretty reliably. Thank you very much for the bullets!

Al
Usually you should run cast bullets through a sizing die.
 
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