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Eagleye256

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Non Ruger here but with the experience on here thought someone could help. See pics please. No markings on gun AT ALL. Friend picked up in lower WV due to oddity. Unfamiliar to everyone.
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More details needed, for example markings and aprox. caliber if it isn't marked. It somewhat resembles a Soper breechloader, but can't tell without more details. Proofmarks? Unit marks? Retailer marks? Does the stock appear military (sling swivels, bayonet lug, etc)? Any sign of hand finishing that might indicate a one-off prototype or a gunsmith's invention? Chamber cast?
 

NikA

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Looks like a pretty scary home project to me. I'm presuming 12ga, hammer is definitely hand checkered, and I believe the action of the hammer/breechblock closing is what causes the firing pin to snap down on the primer. That mechanism and the presence of a couple cracks/questionable joints would make me very hesitant to even consider firing it.

Have you considered contacting Forgotten Weapons? I'd say it's right up that alley...
 
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Eagleye256

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More details needed, for example markings and aprox. caliber if it isn't marked. It somewhat resembles a Soper breechloader, but can't tell without more details. Proofmarks? Unit marks? Retailer marks? Does the stock appear military (sling swivels, bayonet lug, etc)? Any sign of hand finishing that might indicate a one-off prototype or a gunsmith's invention? Chamber cast?
NO markings whatsoever. Last pic shows barrel gauging 12 at the chamber.
 

RSIno1

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... hammer is definitely hand checkered, and I believe the action of the hammer/breechblock closing is what causes the fining pin to snap down on the primer.
That's not the hammer. Looks like it is to open the breech. The firing system is all internal - no visible hammer.
Maybe someone's patent project? Doesn't look like a damascus barrel so probably not 1800s.
 

NikA

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That's not the hammer. Looks like it is to open the breech. The firing system is all internal - no visible hammer.
Maybe someone's patent project? Doesn't look like a damascus barrel so probably not 1800s.
Look again. It looks like the firing pin piece pivots around the screw on that breechblock and the action of snapping shut pivots it forward to hit the primer when the other leg hits the outside of the chamber. Third picture shows this most clearly.

ETA: I'm assuming the sliding piece on the side secured by the screw is a "safety" to prevent the breechblock from accidentally closing and firing the gun. I guess it could have an extractor function as well, but it looks to have far too much movement for that the be the only function.
 
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RSIno1

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I'm thinking the sliding piece is the extractor/safety too. Maybe the length was needed for brass shot shells rather than just brass base ones.
Ahhhh....... you don't close it and pull the trigger. Pulling the trigger causes the breech to slam shut and the lever the screw goes through hits the receiver pivoting and driving the firing pin forward.
 
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