77/44 with threaded barrel

One of these is for sale near me. Anyone got one?

Check the threads before jumping in the ring. Make sure those threads will match whatever suppressor you have in mind(if that's your goal).

I didnt know Ruger made em that way??

This thread caused me to look at the current lineup. Yes, they are threaded with relatively standard thread pitches. They've also changed (thickened) the barrel profile at the end to allow for threading and a shoulder. To my eye, it looks pretty ugly; I'd want to see one in person before I bought one. Doubt that will happen in the current market anytime soon.

Try to understand that such firearms are 'TOOLS' rather than display items. Ugly is in the eye of the buyer.

Mobuck said:

Try to understand that such firearms are 'TOOLS' rather than display items. Ugly is in the eye of the buyer.

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Look at the muzzle end of this current 77/44 from Ruger and tell me that it isn't ugly. Looks to me like they added an unnecessary muzzle weight. There were a lot of options to configuring this "TOOL" that didn't include a sudden transition to a thicker barrel at the muzzle end.

NikA said:

Looks to me like they added an unnecessary muzzle weight. There were a lot of options to configuring this "TOOL" that didn't include a sudden transition to a thicker barrel at the muzzle end.

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There isn't a lot of meat on a standard barrel in the first place. Cut some threads into it and I'd think you would be getting pretty thin. Do you think for just a second that is why they had to do what they did?

I'd be curious to hear some of your ideas on how to accomplish the threading without bumping up the barrel diameter…

rugerjunkie said:

There isn't a lot of meat on a standard barrel in the first place. Cut some threads into it and I'd think you would be getting pretty thin. Do you think for just a second that is why they had to do what they did?

I'd be curious to hear some of your ideas on how to accomplish the threading without bumping up the barrel diameter…

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I've threaded multiple barrels for use with extended muzzle accessories.

I don't have a 77/44 model to measure, but I am aware that several people were threading the original models without the thickened muzzle area. I believe this compromised use of the front sight.

Ruger appears to have elected to use 11/16"-24 threads for this muzzle. Standard threads for a .45ACP can (which are generally rated for .44M at this barrel length) are .578"-28. I'd bet either those or 5/8"-24 threads would have fit without thickening the muzzle end.

If it had been my decision, I would have moved the front sight back and used its base to provide a square shoulder for reference with smaller threads that matched the original barrel profile.

In fact JP Grips and Machine offers exactly the solution I described on the original 77/44 models.

For the folks wanting a threaded barrel for their tacticool or other devices, that's wonderful. I just wish we all had a choice either way.

For me, having no interest whatsoever in a threaded barrel, the choices for firearms without threaded barrels are becoming slim.

Even the M77 Hunter models. I don't see one without a threaded muzzle.



Not long ago, folks were searching for a 'smith to thread their muzzles. Now we'll be looking for a 'smith to remove the swelled and threaded protuberance off the muzzle.

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Mmmm, sexy!

Hubba, hubba!!

It baffles me as to why Ruger would think there was a demand for a threaded barrel end on their 77/44 series.
Chet15

Running silencers on 44 Magnum lever guns for hog hunting has become very popular. 300 to 400 grain subsonic loads are a good fit for the hunting style and cartridge. This is probably why. If I lived where there were pigs, with no limits, I'd be interested in packing that much quiet power.

Green Mountain .17 HMR "running boar" barrel on an older 77/22M:

How heavy would that barrel be if it was a smooth profile all the way out? I'm guessing a real lunker. Another detail to consider: the barrel wall at the threads is a factor. There's a BIG difference between 45ACP and 44Mag when it comes to pressure. Did you consider that such a thin cross section might not properly support a suppressor OR provide the shoulder support required? One barrel maker even states that there's a real possibility of having the muzzle 'blossom' when fired w/o a muzzle device/suppressor mount threaded on if there isn't sufficient thickness at the threads.
I had a .308 Remington factory barrel threaded 9/16 x 24 due to the overall muzzle diameter being too small to get a good shoulder behind 5/8 x 24 threads and the gunsmith 'suggested' that I not shoot it w/o the suppressor mount installed.
Shooting hogs with a 44?? The 44 delivers a good amount of terminal performance w/o the concerns of send rifle bullets zinging across the landscape(a concern when hunting at night on flat land). You're going to be close anyway due to the limitations of night optics so rifle cartridge guns aren't really needed.

Mobuck said:

... One barrel maker even states that there's a real possibility of having the muzzle 'blossom' when fired w/o a muzzle device/suppressor mount threaded on if there isn't sufficient thickness at the threads.
I had a .308 Remington factory barrel threaded 9/16 x 24 due to the overall muzzle diameter being too small to get a good shoulder behind 5/8 x 24 threads and the gunsmith 'suggested' that I not shoot it w/o the suppressor mount installed...

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I imagine that pressures drop substantially, by the time the bullet reaches the muzzle. With a straight-wall cartridge like the .44 mag, the total volume inside the bore will be something like 10 times the chamber volume (with a short rifle barrel), so the pressure as the bullet exits the muzzle will be a fraction of peak chamber pressure. For small bore, bottle-necked rifle cartridges like the .223/5.56, the increase in volume & drop in pressure will be less, but there will likely be more material surrounding the bore at the muzzle. Years ago, I sent a .30-06 to JP Enterprises to have one of their brakes installed, and they chose to thread it 1/2"×28 (which they did on a lathe) - never had a problem with it. Obviously, every situation is different, in terms of barrel thickness, length & hardness, cartridge & chamber, specific ammunition used & resulting pressures, etc., so FWIW & YMMV.

I'll just stick with the conservative security of the larger threads. Suppressors are expensive and as far as I'm concerned, aesthetics are less so.