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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:34 pm 
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I’d maybe be the only one interested but ….. be nice to have a GP100 with 3 or 4 inch barrel in 30 Carbine. Maybe 7 or 8 shot??

Does somebody make a double action 30 Carbine and I don’t know of it?

Would anybody else like to shoot a double action 30 Carbine along with their M1 Carbine?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:35 pm 
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The muzzle report from a .30 Carbine is just flat awful in a 6" barrel, and in a 4"?? There's many more cartridges that are a lot more fun to shoot!

There's no .30 C double actions that I know. You'd have to make one, but with its 40,0000 CUP, I'd only use a large frame like a S&W N frame and a sleeved cyl or custom cyl. You can re-thread and use a .30 C Ruger Blachawk barrel for little cost.

But I'd consider the potential of the .327 Fed Mag cartridge (45,000 CUP) with many guns made for it. And strong enough for the .30 C if so inclined to convert one.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:57 pm 
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Nope.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:12 pm 
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If a larger frame is needed I’d go with Redhawk.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:32 pm 
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Get in line I'm still waiting for an all weather No1 RSI 308 stainless steel and gray laminate stock.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:41 pm 
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S&W did make one prototype .30 Carbine N frame during WW II. If I recall correctly it was to sell to the Chinese.

I can not write that I ever lusted after a .30 Carbine DA. Admittedly my lack of enthusiasm for .30 Carbines influences my view. I want more accurate rifles. It would give up affordable carbide resizers which would be enough reason for me to chose a .327 Federal instead. However, the muzzle blast could be reduced by reloading. The smaller diameter .30 Carbine bullet would allow bullet casters who do not have .32 molds to use their light .30 rifle molds. I suspect .30 Carbine would be safe in a 7 shot GP-100.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:41 pm 
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You’ll see your 308 before I get my double action 30 Carbine!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:03 pm 
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Nope. As Hondo44 said, the noise would be deafening.
Also why the .22 Mag. will never arrive here, because it was originally designed for rifles.
How about a .45-70, eh???


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:08 pm 
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woodsy wrote:
How about a .45-70, eh???


Might work in a S&W Governor - https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/governor

It will take 2 1/2" 410 shells and the max length of 45-70 is only .050" (abt 3/64") longer (but there is room for the shot shell to open so it should be ok). You'd need to ream it to take the .025 larger at the base 45-70. The neck sizes are the same.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:52 am 
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Nope. As Hondo and Woodsy said, muzzle blast would be hideous. And .30 USC ammo is neither plentiful or cheap anymore (it never really has been in my shooting lifetime--those days were back in the '60s for the most part).

I can't think of anything a .30USC 4" DA revolver could do that couldn't be done better by a .357.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:22 pm 
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I’m not a fan of 30 Carbine either. I had the Blackhawk, but had it converted to 45 Colt. I am however, a big fan of 327 Magnum.

I always felt like the 30 Carbine wasn’t especially accurate and in my opinion, sort of an ugly little round. Maybe it’s the tapered case, but definitely not pretty.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:09 pm 
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If I were to buy a handgun for the rimless .30 carbine case, I'd want it to be a self-loader like the rifle.

If I wanted a handgun and rifle with .30 carbine ballistics that used the same cartridge, they'd be chambered in .327 Federal and be lever action and a revolver.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:46 pm 
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I have always seen the .327 Federal as the rimmed version of the .30 Carbine. It's a 45,000 PSI round comparable to the carbine round, so potentially comparable in performance and there are revolvers available for it. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/910242980

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:04 pm 
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I see that this .327 has a very loyal following. I’ve not shot one. Sounds like a hot, little number with low recoil. Especially out of a stout Blackhawk.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:22 pm 
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daveg.inkc wrote:
I see that this .327 has a very loyal following. I’ve not shot one. Sounds like a hot, little number with low recoil. Especially out of a stout Blackhawk.


True this. ^^ I have the stainless SBH 8 shooter in this caliber as well as a custom built stainless K frame S&W (based on a Model 66 donor) and both are ground shaking, fire breathing monsters. Surprisingly, the recoil is about the same as a 28 Spl +P. I have to say that the idea of a 30 Carbine handgun of any sort has virtually no attraction for me at all. YMMV.

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