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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:16 pm 
Hunter

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Rob, my grandpa's .44 has that exact same late tapered barrel. Last patent date on it is 1928.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:15 pm 
Single-Sixer

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Last date on my long .44 WCF is July 4 1905! So I think an early late barrel.

Rob


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:41 am 
Hunter

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Agreed. I THINK that the feature that dates it is the little swelled "bolster" where the barrel butts up against the frame. The 1905 patent marking was on the US Model 1909 .45 Colts and the "bolster" started with the US Model 1917 .45 ACPs (military contract for WWI) and sometime later the (obviously after 1928) commercial models started having both bolster and '28 date.

So I think your barrel was made sometime between 1917 and 1928. When it was put on your revolver is still a mystery unless you have factory or other paperwork that tells when the repair was made. New condition replacement barrels of all vintages were still available from parts dealers up into the 1970s, and people were using them to re-barrel older guns, especially those with "odd" calibers like .455 Eley or .38-40WCF, without much if any concern about collectability later. They wanted shooters.

Lots of mysteries with these old guns, partly because they last so long! I've handled hundreds of New Services over the past 70+ years and have found only one that didn't lock up tight in spite of LOTS of abuse and neglect. That was a "studio gun" that had been partly converted to look more like an SAA so "cowboy" actors didn't have to be able to cock the hammer....

A big part of what attracts me to Rugers of all types is that Bill Ruger held his products to the same "over-engineered" standards for durability that the New Service Colts had. Our Rugers should be with us for a LONG time, like these Colt old timers!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:01 pm 
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Thanks for that info on the New Service revolvers.

I did Cowboy Action Shooting about 20-15 years ago...never officially quit, but haven't been out to do it for that long. So I have an Italian '73 rifle and "Colt" SAA. Only in the last couple of weeks did I finally buy two REAL Colt Single Actions...the Bisley .38 WCF and a SAA .32 WCF. And of course I have the 2 NS guns and a PPS in 32-20.

Then then there's the whole Ruger single action family...OM Bearcat, OM BHs in .357 and .41 Mag, OM SBH .44 Mag, NM Single Six, NM BH Flat-top Bisley .44 Spl, NM BH Flat-top .357/9mm, NM BH .41 Mag, Single Seven .327, the Buckeye 38-40/10mm, and an Old Vaquero 44-40. AND I just purchased two more OM guns...a .30 Carbine and an unusual/custom round top .45 Colt!

So, there is absolutely no evidence that I like Colt and Ruger revolvers. And S&W.

Rob


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