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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:18 pm 
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Bearcat

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Is it mechanically possible for a competent Gunsmith to safely reduce the pull weight on this model to 8 lbs or less?
According to Gun Blast (30 March 09), the factory pull weight on all LCR's should be about 7 lbs 10 ounces. On my fairly worn-in LCR, however, the pull weight is still off my 8-pound scale. I would guess about 10+ lbs.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:10 am 
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I wouldn't get a defensive gun worked on to lighten a pull. It's a handshake distance kind of tool anyway not for target work, just my 2 cents. Just get used to it by shooting it. When the yugo hits the fan you will not even notice the pull.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:05 pm 
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Thanks, COR. Under normal circumstances what you say is absolutely true. With my arthritic fingers, however, being woken by an intruder in the middle of the night is a different matter. In that situation we old fogies need as light a trigger as is safe yet reliable for ignition. Day time situations present no problem because my fingers are limber.

My 10+ pound trigger is what I get for believing Gun Blast.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:56 pm 
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Well the I see your point Sir. There's definitely someone working on them I just wouldn't know who. The LCR CT is my Fiances carry piece. It has a very consistent smooth pull that I really like. Yours may be something Ruger would be willing to help you with if it is truly too heavy. Give them a call and see what they consider "too heavy" otherwise get it to a competent smith.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:09 pm 
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Cor, no doubt the LCR trigger is the very best DAO revolver trigger Ruger ever produced. Still, I was hoping for no stacking and 8 lbs or less, based on the Gun Blast info. Ruger tells me they will not adjust the pull to less than 9 lbs, but at my cost, which is not unreasonable.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:34 am 
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HHH, Welcome to the forum. Undoubtedly you must have a good "competent" gunsmith somewhere in your area. You could get that trigger pull down a "little" to help your "situation" and still have reliable ignition. Understand that Ruger will not "alter" any of their guns to less than their "own" established criteria because of the "liability" issues. Gunsmiths for the most part are under the same sort of "rules" but will work with you within "reason"!...............................Dick :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:33 pm 
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I have a SP that was tuned to 8.4 lbs (after I put the Wolff 8 lb trigger and 9 lb mainspring in it) and it worked with all that I shot through it. Getting below 8 lbs. due to lack of leverage in small revolvers could be difficult but I think one could get near it. Several people that might be able to help are:

Don WIlliams http://www.theactionworks.com/
Gemini: http://www.geminicustoms.com/
Apex Tactical (Randy Lee) http://www.apextactical.com/
Magnaport: http://www.magnaport.com/ Note: don't need to have Magnaported
Teddy Jacobson: http://www.actionsbyt.com/
Grant Cunningham (has waiting list which currently is closed) http://www.grantcunningham.com/

I don't know that anyone has started to tune these (LCR's) yet but it is worth looking into. Other than that only thing would be go to a medium frame gun. Either a GP or Smith (K or L frame) can be tuned to the low 7 pound range readily. Apex has worked with lighter hammers to get their double actions way down. As an instance he did a K frame carry gun with a 6 lb double action someone mentioned and has done N frame "game guns" with triggers in the low .4 lb DA range.[/b]

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:16 pm 
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Thanks for the welcome and info, guys.

I'm new to the OK City/Edmond area, but I'm sure there are good smiths around. I should have explained that by "competent" I meant smiths who are familiar with the new LCR.

Thel, I think I'll take your advice and have my SP 101 trigger slicked up for use as a bedroom gun. The LCR, as is, will serve well for its design: carry.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:13 pm 
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The SP-101 is more of a known item to gunsmiths. Teddy Jacobson in Sugarland, TX does a lot of defense guns. Routinely most come out of his shop at about a 9 lb DA pull. I don't know what weight springs he uses in the SP's. As most are magnums they are a bit heavier sprung than need be to fire std. pistol primers. With the 9 lb mainspring in it and 8 lb trigger return be sure that the trigger reset is satisfactory and run a bunch of ammo through it that you plan on using. Mine must have had at least 800 rounds through it with the 9 lb mainspring but I put the 10 lb in just in case the spring were to take a bit of set. Another person that tunes defense guns is Grant Cunningham but he has a closed waiting list right now. They won't necessarily be as light as they could be made due to the intended use sort of like Teddy Jacobson.

Randy Lee of Apex Tactical gets really low DA pulls by lightening the hammers. He is primarily known for his S&Ws but has done Rugers in the past. In fact someone on one of the Ruger Forums has a GP in which he discussed the trigger. Using a custom lightened hammer (Iowegan on one of the Ruger Forums showed where to lighten the hammer, see http://rugerforum.net/ruger-double-acti ... anges.html ) and perhaps a custom mainspring I would think one might be able to get a bit under 8 lbs in double action if attention is devoted to firing pin protrusion ( http://rugerforum.net/gunsmithing/9965- ... usion.html ) and using std. .38 cal ammo.

Many run of the mill gunsmiths won't address some of these things (firing pin protrusion and hammer lightening ) in a tune up or action job. Might want to print out Iowegan's comments on the topics (he is a retired gunsmith) to show what you want done. That is one reason given what you desire I would be tempted to have Randy Lee work on it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:22 am 
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Thanks, again, Thel.


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