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a lot of chest beating over what is still a extremely cool gun, on a neat format(flatop) who the hell cares what the genesis of this is.


All part of the "history". Some guys like that kinda thing, some guys could care less. Myself...I like it.
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Guess we can call them whatever we want but i call mine my HANK JR. GUN. Being it has no rollmark on the barrel, my HANK JR. is special.
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Guess we can call them whatever we want but i call mine my HANK JR. GUN. Being it has no rollmark on the barrel, my HANK JR. is special.


Yeah...I've got to agree with you on that :D
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Ale-8(1) wrote:
There's a previous, lengthy thread discussing this matter. One post within it is the following, somewhat abbreviated . . .

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I am new to this forum, but just had to put in my $.02 worth.
As the president of Williams Shooters' Supply, the lack of notification on these guns is my fault. Ruger produced the 0868 sometime in the past (I haven't asked when.... yet). They were offered to me along with some other discontinued items. They first arrived in our warehouse on September 16th. In all honesty, they were an afterthought. They were a special make up gun for a very famous Ruger Fan. After we received the initial 40 units, Ruger offered us another 36 units early last week. As of 5pm Central time today we took an order for the last 4 units. We currently have another 200 units on order, but no idea of the delivery date yet.

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From this I take it that perhaps Mr. Hank Williams, Jr. might have requested that Ruger make him a "special" gun. This is not unheard of. It is not unlikely that Ruger decided to make a "few" while they were at it. It is also not unlikely that those involved referred to these as the "Hank Williams guns" as they were processed thru manufacturing, and thus did the nomenclature stick. Once something gets started it's hard to stop it.

I can also see that Hank might not appreciate all this fuss, and Ruger is likely attempting to smooth things over. The letters mentioning the Hank reference will no doubt become collectors' items, particularly if accompanied by any "correction" letters that may be forthcoming.

Interesting episode.

Totally JMHO, of course.
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I know this is a very old thread, and I'm not interested in stirring anything up... My question is to do with the numbers, not the origins of this model...

Can we accurately assume from the quote from Williams' Shooter Supply that there were a total of 280 of this model produced?

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Ale-8(1) wrote:
There's a previous, lengthy thread discussing this matter. One post within it is the following, somewhat abbreviated . . .

-----------------------------------------------------------

I am new to this forum, but just had to put in my $.02 worth.
As the president of Williams Shooters' Supply, the lack of notification on these guns is my fault. Ruger produced the 0868 sometime in the past (I haven't asked when.... yet). They were offered to me along with some other discontinued items. They first arrived in our warehouse on September 16th. In all honesty, they were an afterthought. They were a special make up gun for a very famous Ruger Fan. After we received the initial 40 units, Ruger offered us another 36 units early last week. As of 5pm Central time today we took an order for the last 4 units. We currently have another 200 units on order, but no idea of the delivery date yet.

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From this I take it that perhaps Mr. Hank Williams, Jr. might have requested that Ruger make him a "special" gun. This is not unheard of. It is not unlikely that Ruger decided to make a "few" while they were at it. It is also not unlikely that those involved referred to these as the "Hank Williams guns" as they were processed thru manufacturing, and thus did the nomenclature stick. Once something gets started it's hard to stop it.

I can also see that Hank might not appreciate all this fuss, and Ruger is likely attempting to smooth things over. The letters mentioning the Hank reference will no doubt become collectors' items, particularly if accompanied by any "correction" letters that may be forthcoming.

Interesting episode.

Totally JMHO, of course.
;)


I know this is a very old thread, and I'm not interested in stirring anything up... My question is to do with the numbers, not the origins of this model...

Can we accurately assume from the quote from Williams' Shooter Supply that there were a total of 280 of this model produced?

Thanks!


When I did the NM flattop article in the May 2010 issue of Red Eagle News Exchange, there were 346 of the 6-1/2" model at the time. Williams may have received a few more since then, but I did not hear about that.
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Update:
Here's the quantities produced of Williams' .41 Flattops through 2011...

S458N-41 (model 0869, 87- prefix 4-5/8") = 5 guns
S416N (model 0868, 87- prefix 6-1/2") = 346 guns
BN414L (Model 10408, 48- prefix 4-5/8") = 301 guns
BN416L (Model 10409, 48- prefix 6-1/2") = 60 guns

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chet15 wrote:
Update:
Here's the quantities produced of Williams' .41 Flattops through 2011...

S458N-41 (model 0869, 87- prefix 4-5/8") = 5 guns
S416N (model 0868, 87- prefix 6-1/2") = 346 guns
BN414L (Model 10408, 48- prefix 4-5/8") = 301 guns
BN416L (Model 10409, 48- prefix 6-1/2") = 60 guns

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Chet,
Thanks for the update,,,looks like you called it right ealier on the 48-XXXXX 6 1/2" prefix guns being far rarer!!

I know you have one of the S458N-41 87 prefix guns, do you happen to know the status on the other four?
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I know you have one of the S458N-41 87 prefix guns, do you happen to know the status on the other four?
Thanks again
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Yeah, I know where all the others went.
Don't know if they'd ever be pried loose though...the current owners know their significance!
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T.A. WORKMAN wrote:
I know you have one of the S458N-41 87 prefix guns, do you happen to know the status on the other four?
Thanks again
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Yeah, I know where all the others went.
Don't know if they'd ever be pried loose though...the current owners know their significance!
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Yeah I did not think anyone with one would let it go. :D :D But the fact that they are all in private collections answers my question. One of the "Holy Grails" for New Model Flat Top Collectors, ranks right up there with the two "Skeeter" guns and Doc's factory engraved .44 NM FT IMHO.
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Wonder how many "two letter" guns are out there?

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Wonder how many "two letter" guns are out there?

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That would be an interesting piece of data. I think one forum member has two, maybe four total that I can remember (CRS).

How about one of the 12-14 with the naked barrels. :D :D
Never ends does it???? :wink:

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The three I had were all naked, consecutive, and had both letters with them.
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I hope these aren't "collectible". I use mine too much. Put some venison in the freezer with it last year. (S-416N Model 0868)

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Well, the s/n 100 .41 mag. I just received had this in the box.......

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Kidding, just kidding...... :D

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