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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:48 am 
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They're "Cowboy Action" practice .45 Colt chamber inserts, chambered & rifled for .22LR - which I just received last nite from The Sportsman's Guide.

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I intend to range test them, and will report on how they do.

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Sounds like a really neat idea, especially if they work well.

Do they make inserts for 22 in 44 mag as well?

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Not AFAIK - They're made/sold for/as CAS practice with the CAS .45 Colt revolver.

I don't think .44 Mags are used, or even allowed, for CAS - but maybe an industrious soul could outside lathe-turn these down to .44 mag specs.

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Pete,

I saw those in the Sportsman's Guide and wondered how they would work. I envision a .22 bullet bouncing through the .45 barrel. Would the rifling even work on the bullet? Will be awaiting your range report.

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Pete,

I saw those in the Sportsman's Guide and wondered how they would work. I envision a .22 bullet bouncing through the .45 barrel. Would the rifling even work on the bullet? Will be awaiting your range report.

Rick


Ideally they would be stabilized in the rifled portion of the case insert and never touch the barrel (consider the barrel to be a "counterbored muzzle" for its entire length). I wonder how orienting them in the chambers would affect poi?

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[I envision a .22 bullet bouncing through the .45 barrel. Would the rifling even work on the bullet? ]

Dunno yet - but the rifling works just fine in all four of my NAA Mini's ( 1" bbl).



[I wonder how orienting them in the chambers would affect poi? ]

There's not much "orienting" that can be done, since the .22 chamber HAS to line up with the NV ejector rod.

The installation instructions say to hold the EJ rod all the way to the rear while seating the insert into the .45 chamber to assure it aligns properly.

The .45 inserts are a nice/snug fit - When I want to go back to shooting .45 Colt cartridges, I have to start the inserts out of the .45 chambers by slightly offsetting the chamber and tapping it with the EJ rod.

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pete44ru wrote:
[I envision a .22 bullet bouncing through the .45 barrel. Would the rifling even work on the bullet? ]

Dunno yet - but the rifling works just fine in all four of my NAA Mini's ( 1" bbl).



[I wonder how orienting them in the chambers would affect poi? ]

There's not much "orienting" that can be done, since the .22 chamber HAS to line up with the NV ejector rod.

The installation instructions say to hold the EJ rod all the way to the rear while seating the insert into the .45 chamber to assure it aligns properly.

The .45 inserts are a nice/snug fit - When I want to go back to shooting .45 Colt cartridges, I have to start the inserts out of the .45 chambers by slightly offsetting the chamber and tapping it with the EJ rod.

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Ok, that sounds right. I just pictured you having to eject the whole assempbly each time and replace the 22 and reload. Just ejecting the 22 brass is a much better system.

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Very interested to see how these work out. I ight have to pick up a set for my Acusport Bisley that hopefully be here tomorrow.


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I took my NV to the range today, and shot it @ 7yds (21') with the recommended standard velocity ammo - I had CCI plain lead RN bullets on hand.

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I guess it's about what I expected - a beer can can plinking and/or trigger time practice accessory - except that I found it curious that some hits were cutting wads, while others obviously keyholed.

I didn't take the time to see if a specific insert or two were the only ones doing the keyholeing, or if they were all randomly keyholeing shots.
A project for another day, and a notebook, after the inserts are marked & numbered so I can tell who's on first.

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That doesn't look too bad. Does anyone know if these are available from other sources and/or in other calibers?
I have a .357-50th anniversary model and while shooting .38's is cheaper than .357, being able to shoot .22's would be cheaper still.

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hay pete what was the distance uou shot? and you can use 44 sp in csa. mike

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So does a .22 that hits sideways count as half a .44?


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Kind of fun looking but I think a replacement cylinder with the chambers and bores built in would be more to my liking. Hmm might make for a fun winter project this year.


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