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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:55 pm 
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Added the SR22 to the arsenal last Friday and had a chance to shoot it over the weekend. Groups were all over the place with many failure to feeds, but I figured I needed to clean it and start over.

I took the gun apart to clean (very easy by the way) the first time and did not notice any barrel issues. The trigger felt grittier so I took it apart again and cleaned the internal parts a little better.

As I was putting it back together a long black screw fell out. The screw looked bigger than anything that could fit in the small gun so I set it aside. Once more I took it apart and this time the barrel was loose and able to move. Figuring this was not right I read the section on replacing the barrel. Sure enough that the was screw that fell out.

Clearly the screw had not been fully tightened upon assembly.

Range day 2 brought much better results. There was one ftf issue with a Winchester white box round in the first magazine and then it went on to run about 250 rounds of everything I threw at it. I checked the screw when I got home and it had not moved.

Can't wait to shoot it some more. It feels great in the hand and is a ton of fun to shoot.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:02 pm 
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I had a similar experience.
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Fired 250 rounds of federal ammunition and noticed the barrel was pretty loose.
I took it apart and found the locating pin had damaged the barrel.

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The Ruger technician said the barrel was supposed to have 1/16" play and the deformation of the locating pin's seat was by design.

I went back to the range and fired 200 more rounds of federal ammunition. The barrel would become sloppy loose every 30-40 rounds and would have to be tightened back to specs. The wrench is 9/64 not 3/32 as the instructions suggest on page 25. I should have brought some thread locker.
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Inspecting the barrel again showed more damage to the locating pin's seat. The barrel will not sit evenly in its seat now.
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I wish the barrel was connected better.
Maybe a curb for the barrel to stop against, or a splined connection.
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Another small gripe is the magazine doesn't always seat easily. It sometimes requires a little pop with the heel of the hand.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:17 pm 
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So now I wonder if a brand new Sr22 would have the same barrel deformation. Mine looks just like your first photo.

Looks like yours is getting worse. Mine did seem to stay tight after a few hundred rounds.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:39 pm 
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thanks for the heads up...Just checked my after saturday's 1st outing (have not had a chance to clean it yet)....and sure enough its loose! gonna have to look into this a little more.

Brannon

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:21 pm 
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I'm not impressed. That barrel locating pin is definitely a design flaw - there isn't enough surface area to stand up to recoil without damaging the barrel slot if the screw is at all loose. How about bedding the barrel in epoxy (like JB Weld)? That should cure any movement problems permanently.

That would give you a massive recoil lug the full width of the inner frame. If you were as anal as I am, you could even add a couple of extra steel pins, one on each side of the existing one, before laying down the epoxy.

Too strong is way better than too weak.

Oh yeah, use a release agent on the barrel and screw!

I want an SR-22 but I will wait for this stuff to get sorted out at the factory, and for a threaded barrel. I have a tuned up, Pac-Lite barrelled 22/45 in the meantime, so I am in no rush.

EDIT: the easy fix is for Ruger to replace that round pin with a square headed one (with round shank) that exactly matches the slot width. It would require more care during assembly to align it correctly. I expect fast assembly time was the reason they went with a round one.

John Davies
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:10 am 
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Round peg in a square hole sounds about right. For this little plinking 22 I don't think I am going to stress just yet. I will shoot it again Friday and see how it does. If it becomes an issue I am sure Ruger will fix it or I will take of a few of your suggestions and do it myself.

I just did a quick check and my barrel is seated firmly against the frame. No gaps. I wil make sure the screw is tight before and after and report back.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:40 am 
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I just spoke with Ruger CS. Was told the use of locktite on the screw would not be an issue. I was told that they use Locktite 271 so it can be removed again if necessary

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:01 am 
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Just checked mine and it was Tight.. Took it off anyway to check and my screw has a lock washer and all on it.. I duped some crazy glue in the threads and re tightened it all up we will see how it holds up.

I think we are starting to see the "true quality of a 300$ pistol"
I hope ruger gets their yugo together soon.


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I am guessing that as long as the screw stays tight there is really not a big design issue. It was designed to be removed and replaced for a threaded barrel some day.

My issue is that mine actually fell out. That means that someone is not tightening the screws before leaving the factory.

Time will tell if there is a real issue or just a quality assurance step that was skipped.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:33 am 
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bspitt wrote:
I just spoke with Ruger CS. Was told the use of locktite on the screw would not be an issue. I was told that they use Locktite 271 so it can be removed again if necessary


I dont think loctite 271 was the correct suggestion from ruger CS. 271 is the red permanate threadsealer that take heat to remove. I think I will stick with the loctite blue 242.

BP


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:44 am 
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thinking about buying one - like today.


What does it take to get to the screw to tighten/check it it?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:01 pm 
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The screw is under the trigger when pulled back. The wrench is 9/64 not 3/32 according to srurly1. Does that help?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:03 pm 
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rugerhouse - thanks--- I just didn't want to have to take the gun totally apart for what sounds like a regular check/maintenance issue.


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Mine hasn't moved since Day One, it's got a lockwasher on it and I made sure it's on there nice and tight after I tore it down the day I got it home. If you disassemble everything for a cleaning BEFORE taking it to the range and make sure it's back on there tight, it shouldn't be a problem, but yeah, that should be tight from the factory. Maybe an anti-gun person is working the line, who knows? Regardless, Ruger should address the issue or they will be replacing a lot of barrels because of that screw being loose.

The round 'location tab' in the frame should have been rectangular, to match the slot on the bottom of the barrel, or do it the other way and just make the barrel with a matching hole, instead of a slot.

Still, if you crank down on that sucker (very FIRM, but not to the point where you are lifting yourself off the ground) it won't come loose.


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I meant to add that you can tell without taking it apart.

Mine had a yellow dot on it. I always assume that was some type of inspection marker. If that is the case Mr or Mrs. Yellow dot needed to check that screw better.

Good luck and let us know what you run across. We love the SR22 other than this minor issue.


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