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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:05 am 
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Hey folks. I've decided that I want to add one of the small 1911 style .380 pistols to my arsenal. Looks like Sig, Colt, and Kimber are what I have to choose from. I know there are bigger 1911 .380's out there but I want to keep it at the size of these guns. I'm not looking for laser sights, fancy finishes, or anything like that. Just a basic black or silver 1911 from one of these three makes with standard sights. Is one superior to the others in any way? Do they have much parts interchangeability? I'm leaning towards Sig as I trust them more than the other two. Strangely enough, Kimber is the cheapest of the three. I don't want the ambidextrous safety as I am right handed and the other side of the safety is uncomfortable to me. Any experiences or opinions appreciated!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:07 pm 
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I have the Browning 1911-380 and I love it.
Anything bigger wouldn't make sense to me

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:15 am 
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These are even smaller than the Browning version, which I believe is a truly scaled down 1911.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:30 am 
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I have a Star Model S, which is essentially a scaled down 1911. It shoots good, is reliable and a lot of fun. I do not carry it because it is similar in size to the LC9s that I have and if I am going for a gun that size, I want the advantages of the 9. It does make a nice range gun though.

For everyday Mendon carry, the LCP is my choice for that. If I am going to K-zoo or D-troit or any other larger town, the 9 goes with me. 8)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:24 am 
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Don't forget the Rock Island Armory Baby Rock. "A" rated by Gun Tests and one of their 2016 Guns of the Year. Truly a miniature 1911 that doesn't omit some 1911 features like other pistols of its ilk.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:28 am 
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I picked up a Kimber Micro and was underwhelmed. I love Kimbers, but
IMO they shot themselves in the foot with the micro.

Sigs are . . . . . . Sigs. Their small one in .380 is just too small for me. I
have a problem getting a good grip on it. But that's me.

Colts are not my cup of tea.

Sooooooo, out of the three, I'd go with Sig. (YMMV). :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:49 pm 
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What did you not like about the Kimber? Right now the Micro stainless is what I am leaning towards.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:48 am 
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FergusonTO35 wrote:
What did you not like about the Kimber? Right now the Micro stainless
is what I am leaning towards.

The one I handled had a trigger that was comparable to an extremely
cheap (as in not worth the money) imitation, the slide movement was
poor, at best and the safety . . . well it was much like the trigger.

As I said, I love Kimbers, but not the micro. I think you could compare it
to the very early rim-fire Kimbers, for quality.

As they came out I got a Solo and my main complaint with it was the
amount of "fun" it was to shoot. Much less "fun" than the Ultra Cary in a
.45ACP. That said, it was FAR better made than the Micro. YMMV.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:23 pm 
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Well, Kimber it is. Went to the fun store today planning to ask about the stainless Kimber Micro and they had one under the glass for $500.00 so I layawayed it. The trigger on this particular example is just fine for my taste and the manual safety has a nice firm detent to engage and disengage. The owner said the Micro series has gotten very popular and he sold another one just before I arrived. I still find it amusing that Kimber was the least expensive choice here. Sig would be my preference but it doesn't come without night sights and so costs a lot more. With Colt of course you pay extra for those pretty pony medallions and the front sight is integral to the slide, meaning that it requires mill work if you want to replace it.


I'm surprised at how small these .380 1911's are. The Micro is about the same size as the Ruger LCP II in th case next to it. The Micro grip is slightly longer, the LCP II slide is slightly longer, both are about the same thickness. The Micro slid down into my pocket almost as easily as the standard LCP does, certainly easier than my Glock 42 or S&W 637 do. Looking forward to bailing it out!

P.S. If there was a comparable Sig 238 under the glass for, say, $550.00 or less I probably would have gone with that instead. Still, the Micro seems like a nice gun.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:52 pm 
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FergusonTO35 wrote:
Still, the Micro seems like a nice gun.

Hope it does well for you. 8)

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:04 pm 
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Hopefully so. From what I have read most of the problems with this gun vanished with an updated recoil spring from Kimber or the Wolff 12 pound Colt Mustang spring. In any event, my local dealer stands behind every gun he sells 100%. He will make it right even if the factory won't.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:24 am 
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FergusonTO35 wrote:
He will make it right even if the factory won't.

I doubt you would have a problem with that. If you . . . ask . . . the
service rep about your issue (if you have any) they get very easy
to deal with. The problems most had in the 90's were from TELLING
them how to fix things. :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:24 am 
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I have a Kimber Micro, and just love the cute lil booger....shoots straight, handles right....who can complain..


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:57 am 
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I bailed out the Micro yesterday. Also picked up a couple of extra mags for it, glad to see they are very reasonably priced at $21.95 each at the fun store. Hopefully I can shoot it soon, all my reloading stuff and ammo is still in moving boxes.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:51 pm 
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The sun came out today and I was able to take a break from unpacking to test drive the little Kimber. Distance was 18 feet, ammo was some cheapo Maxxtech FMJ (Combloc production, fairly accurate but dirty). I'm pleased to announce it did not disappoint. Function with this dirty ammo was 100% and within a few mags the Micro was shooting almost as well as my Glock 42. I tried a couple mags of Remington FMJ and accuracy was about the same but ejection and recoil were stronger with a small fireball coming out of the muzzle.

The only thing I might change is to go with a solid black rear sight was this would match my Glock 42, which has an OEM white dot front and Ameriglo flat black rear. So far very pleased with this little pistol and look forward to trying my reloads in it.

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