In the interest of full disclosure, I sold this gun to the current owner but I did not have it built. The original owner who commissioned it from Alan (and never shot it) sold it and another custom by Ben Forkin here on the forum about a year ago. Zeus and I thumb wrestled over who would buy which one and he bought this but I knew it was only a matter of time before I talked him out of it and I did. I only let the current owner buy the gun when I decided to take my youngest son on a CO elk hunt and needed the funds. That is the back story but the seller is right, the gun is unfired since it left Alan Hartons shop. He is also right in that is at a substantial discount to having the same gun built today.