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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:41 pm 
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CRF is compared to a push feed bolt face, wherein the CRF bolt carries a large claw-type extractor "finger" perfected by Mauser in the 19th century, that grabs over a portion of the case rim under the claw extractor when exiting the magazine itself, when tuned properly. A push-feed bolt has a relatively small hook to perform the case removal function only.

I agree that "polished walnut, good checkering and blued steel do not make a rifle any more useful", but if that were all that matters in a rifle, we'd all be driving a white Chevy Aveo, as if getting from point A to point B were all that mattered in transportation.

Call me a romantic.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:53 am 
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leon670 wrote:
The 77 came out at a time when the average working man, could not afford a new rifle that was aesthetically appealing as well as rugged and reliable. Most factory bolt action rifles had monte carlo combs, white line spacers and press checkering.
Ruger hired a custom stockmaker to design a good looking stock in the classic style with cut checkering and nice finish that could be mass produced. The actions were strong with one piece, bolts and machined actions made of good steel.
The Model 70 Win, so much loved, was gone. In its place was the post- 64 version which though cheaper to produce, lacked the simple classic lines of its predecessor. Bill Rugers ideas influenced other makers, causing Winchester to change its stock designs with the XTR model 70 and Remington with its Classic and Mountain Rifle versions of the model 700. The Mk II had true controlled round feeding as does the Hawkeye. I believe the new Hawkeye has further refined this rifle, making it even better. I know that my views are old-fashioned and polished walnut, good checkering and blued steel do not make a rifle any more useful. I got my ideas of what a good rifle should look like, reading Jack O' Connor and Jim Carmichael. I guess I was brainwashed.


Yep, bought a Model 77 in 1982. IMO it was the best looking rifle on the market at that time. Period. Blued steel, good wood, no monte carlo stock, excellent mounting system for a scope. Just simple clean lines. Still have it and use it every deer season. We've both aged a bit but I think we are both still looking' good. Now on the other hand, there is my rough painted camo Mossberg 500 Turkey special……... :?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:47 pm 
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Life is too short to shoot an ugly bird with a pretty gun! :D


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:56 am 
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I just learned of another advantage of the RAR. It doesn't bother me that my daughter wants to personalize it by vinyl wrapping the stock. The RAR makes a great base for cosmetic customization.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:00 am 
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I have had a number of pretty guns in my life, from pre-64 model 70s to a custom built on a 1909 Argentine Mauser action with a high grade Bishop walnut stock and a couple of M77 Rugers. Love them all but I wanted something for deer hunting that I'm not afraid to scratch or bump. My RAR in .270 Win. (yes, I'm an old Jack O'Connor fan) shoots tight groups with my Hornady tipped handloads. The recoil pad is very well designed and recoil is hardly noticeable. I still like to take my lookers to the range but the RAR goes to the field. It's totally utilitarian and that's fine with me.

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