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Well, you know it is rule #9.

http://cbsncis.wetpaint.com/page/Important+NCIS+Rules

maybe I should clarify my anwser I have always carried a knife of some sort and I do look at my knives as a tool just like my guns and I do use it for many things and to quote Wolfsong my real weapon is my brain but if it was all I have to defend my self with it yes I would use it to do that .Of course if I could lay my hands on something else like a piece of pipe or a 2x4 that I would use over the knife .I've been a student of martial arts for 30 years and can defend my self with just about anything I can get my hands on and if I must I can go empty handed too

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Does everyone think that it's NOT politically correct to carry a tactical folder as a weapon, rather than a gun?

Is the impression of the American public that only crooks, stick-up artists, and gang members, carry knives (as weapons) rather than decent folks who carry - or ought to carry- guns?

No, at least where I am there's no real problem carrying a tactical folder. It mostly depends on how much money you have for whizz-bang knives whether you have a tactical folder or something less exciting. I don't know of anyone who specifically carries one for defense but many more people carry tactical folding knives here than carry guns. Personally I would require a lot more training with a knife to consider it an effective defensive weapon than I would with a gun.

I voted "no". I don't carry any type of "tactical" knife but I do carry a Swiss Army Knife every day. I use the various tools on it as much as the blades. The tweezers are especially handy with little kids prone to getting slivers while playing outside, barefoot. And of course the bottle opener....

I have absolutely no training and no interest in engaging a threat to my life while armed only with a knife. Way, way too close for comfort for me. That's why I carry a concealed handgun. If things get ugly and I can't get away, then I'd rather engage an enemy with gunfire....from cover.

Not hand-to-hand. No thank you! Of course, if it came down to it, you gotta do what you gotta do.

Rob

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Oregon ,as a P.S.O. I had no choice but to go hand to hand as deadly force wasn't warrented in some situations

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Trust me it does require a LOT more training with a knife you have offencive and defensive moves that you must master of course if I were confronted by someone wielding a knife and and have time to draw my gun fight over but if I let my guard down and someone got in close with a knife your mission is to disarm them rather than go for your knife ,if you have time to do that you've got time to get to your gun again lots of training in empty hand combat ,strikes,kicks,shin strikes, throws,pressure points ,arm& wrist locks etc basically of he's got a knife you must use his own strength and momentum against them and strike with bone breaking or killing blows and that takes a lot of pratice not to mention lots of pain learning them LOL
P.S. I forgot to tell you if your ever in that position ,in your mind you've GOT TO BE THE BEST TRAINED, MAENEST,FASTEST ,STRONGEST DIRTYEST HAIRPULLIN EYE GOUGING DIRT THROWING,GONAD KICKIN,EAR BITEIN OFF, FIGHTING S.O.B. THATS EVER WALKED THIS EARTH cause if you hesatate your dead.Remember in a gun, knife, or hand to hand fight theres only one rule ---thats to win

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i carry a leatherman wave, and actually use it probably 10 times a day- handiest thing ever!

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Yes, I can see that, but as a PSO you're trained for that and that's part of your job. As a private citizen, I have zero interest in being involved in fights, altercations, that kind of thing. The only reason I carry a handgun is if I'm confronted with a life-or-death situation. Anything less than that and I'm not going to be involved. The fact that I'm carrying a gun, in fact, makes me even less likely to get involved with jerks, low-lifes, a-holes, those types who are just trying to pick a fight because they've got a bone to pick or something to prove.

But back to the original post, carrying a fighting knife to me seems unnecessary if one can carry a gun.

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Oregon I agree 100% with what you said if you've noticed in my tag I'M RETIRED so I feel the same as you it's just the training sticks with you I do at all cost avoid trouble,I don't go anywhere thats known for it .I guess what i'm trying to say is that the mindset is part of the training and it never goes away .I don't want to fight anyone ,well maybe one person but he ain't worth it and I never see him anymore anyway .but back on point I will walk away if at all possible even run if I can safely turn my back on a situation but if I'm cornered or have no choice I'm gonna fight with whatever means necessary some body's gonna get hurt bad and brother God willing it ain't gonna be me .See LOL there goes that mindset thing again LOL and just for the record I don't think I'm some kind of bad a$$ or Marshal arts guru trust me i've had my share of A$$ whoppins more than I care to remember but I think I've come out on top more often that not and before it's all over I'll probably end up wareing another whoopin but I hope not LOL

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I'm not sure how to answer the question. I generally carry at least two knives (the usual Swiss Army Knife and at least one one-handed opener, because life has a way of presenting me with things that need cutting while I'm already using one hand to hold them), but I'm not a big fan of "tacti-cool." Oregon laws are extremely easygoing about bladed tools as long as they're not concealed, and a pocket clip counts as "not concealed," but I'd feel myself to be at something of a disadvantage if the local constabulary happened to ask why I was carrying some sort of hyper-Ninja-fantasy-knife around town. The tools I carry are easy to use, and easy to talk about if the situation should arise.

define tactical folder.........

I've always got a knife in my pocket. Since I really like the conveniance of one handed opening, I generally carry one of several Benchmades, or a Pro-tech auto. Nothing tactical about it, they are just convenient. I suppose they could be considered back ups....to my back up gun.

I think the "tactical folder " monocker applys to any one hand opening knife wther or not it's assited opening or not kind of like calling a semi auto rifle an assualt rifle when what they really are are self loading rifles even my tricked out AR and AK folks at the range call them "assualtrifles" and them I educate them on what an assualt rifle is and +1 on the back up thing

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A quote from "The Shootist"
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The first time I ever read that phrase was in a book (one of the "Rogue Warrior" series), and I seriously thought the author was talking about a zippered ballistic nylon document holder (as in "manila folder", only "tactical"...).

-- Sam

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