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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:25 pm 
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what city are you in?
The Evansville rural king had a couple but that was long ago.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:42 pm 
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recumbent wrote:
what city are you in?
The Evansville rural king had a couple but that was long ago.


Bloomington


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:38 pm 
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Well I went to the local Cal- Ranch store yesterday to look at/buy a Ruger Charger that they have and ended up getting a Wrangler instead. Shot it yesterday also, I think it will be fine as long as I can see the sights. I really like the balance of it, the free wheeling, 6 shot, and the basic concept. I'm sometimes a bit over protective with some of my guns. With a Wrangler I won't be. Plus I have a Jeep Wrangler and thought it fitting. After all I do not drive a Charger


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:58 pm 
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Moey wrote:
Well I went to the local Cal- Ranch store yesterday to look at/buy a Ruger Charger that they have and ended up getting a Wrangler instead. Shot it yesterday also, I think it will be fine as long as I can see the sights. I really like the balance of it, the free wheeling, 6 shot, and the basic concept. I'm sometimes a bit over protective with some of my guns. With a Wrangler I won't be. Plus I have a Jeep Wrangler and thought it fitting. After all I do not drive a Charger

But... what brand of jeans are on your butt?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:10 pm 
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Wrangler...of coarse


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:22 am 
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Moey wrote:
Well I went to the local Cal- Ranch store yesterday to look at/buy a Ruger Charger that they have and ended up getting a Wrangler instead. Shot it yesterday also, I think it will be fine as long as I can see the sights. I really like the balance of it, the free wheeling, 6 shot, and the basic concept. I'm sometimes a bit over protective with some of my guns. With a Wrangler I won't be. Plus I have a Jeep Wrangler and thought it fitting. After all I do not drive a Charger

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:23 pm 
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I am new to this thread so bear with me please. Other than being Cerakote
finished as opposed to being blued and being a NM action, how does the new
Wrangler differ from an ordinary Single-Six? My state has a tax free holiday
this weekend and one LGS here has Wranglers on sale for $199 and that just
might be the hook that lures me out of the man cave this weekend if this
new model isn't somehow bubba-ized and as such cheapened in some way.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:56 pm 
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Go look at it, lots of good reviews on this thread, at least one person hated it, $200 wont break the bank to try one.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:32 am 
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45flattop wrote:
Other than being Cerakote finished as opposed to being blued and being a NM action, how does the new Wrangler differ from an ordinary Single-Six?


Briefly . . .

Aluminum main frame instead of steel (like the original Lightweights) and zinc alloy grip frame instead of aluminum.

That's it. Still has steel cylinder and barrel, and the internals are essentially the same as the "normal" NM Single-Six. The fixed rear sight is of the "notch in the frame" type similar to the original Bearcat. Plastic grip panels.

Neat little gun and IMHO certainly worth the $200 or so you can buy one for. Check one out.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:46 am 
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There are a few other minor differences.
The hammer appears to be a MIM one. The ejector rods are all stainless with a blued button. The frame screws have Torx heads vs slotted.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:39 am 
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I was out with it again yesterday , maybe fired 100 rounds thru it. I love it. Sights are hard to see with old eyes but from a rest it was quite accurate. Maybe 2.5 inch at 15 yards. Had a single 10 and hated it. It cost $600! the S10 had sticky chambers, fit and finish was poor, had 2 blue screws on a ss gun. Blah blah blah


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:40 am 
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Just returned from Sportsman's Warehouse. They had two, one black and one silver. Also, I have to send mine in to Ruger. After firing, the trigger is rigid and won't move. Once I cock it she functions normally, until fired. Then the trigger is rigid again. I tested it against the new ones. The triggers move on both examples after firing. ANOTHER Ruger back to the factory......... Other than this, I like the Wrangler a lot.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:33 pm 
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I'll pass thanks even at $199 and no sales tax this weekend. With Ruger's recent adoption of the plastic fantastic model of manufacturing, I'll sit on my stainless and blued steel older
models thanks. Unless the ghost of WBR comes to haunt the current leadership and they
turn their direction around to what made Ruger the largest firearms manufacturer in the US
but I won't hold my breath on that ever coming to happen, I like breathing too much.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:44 am 
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"they
turn their direction around to what made Ruger the largest firearms manufacturer in the US"

Bill started, built & made successful his company by making a quality firearm,, using different methods of manufacturing,, that cost less,, allowing the sale of his guns to the average shooter. This is EXACTLY what the current management has done with the Wrangler & other models. And,, under Bill,, they never met the production numbers they have in recent years. Bill never saw production of 1 million (or more) guns in one year. Current management has done so,, more than once.
And let's NOT forget the complaining that used to happen under Bill. Introduce a new gun,, but not have any in the market for many folks for 2-3 years.
And I know the issue with "quality" will be mentioned,, but let's NOT forget the early years,, where the blued guns turned color,,, and many sent their guns back. Or the ones with "lightning streaks" in the metal. Or,, the stocks cracking on the 44 carbine. How about the top strap flame cutting of the 357 Max? Early Lightweight 22's with the cylinders showing chips in the finish?

My point is that even under Bill,, they had PROBLEMS,, and they worked to resolve them. Current management is no different. Bill was smart in not offering a written warranty but instead, chose to just fix things. It saved MONEY!!!!!!!!
Current management does the same. We just happen to see more problems,, because there are MORE Rugers in MORE hands now. ANY production item,, (not just guns,) are going to have a percentage of product with potential issues. Heck, in my stable,, I have a Std Auto where the rear sight blade doesn't have the slot cut in the middle. The corner is cut. And,, many of the early "mistakes" are now highly sought after collectables.

I currently have 3 of the Wranglers. ALL are still NIB,, (my choice,) and are all quite nice. Fit is pretty good overall,, but NOT perfect! Grip frame on one,, just a tiny smidgen offset sideways. Grips are a little small allowing the g/f to be a little proud.
But for the cost,, they are EXACTLY what Bill built his company on. An affordable SHOOTER for the working man.
And as for the "plastic fantastic" issues,,, we have to accept that much of the average joe buying public prefers that. I, as well as many of us here are older,, and blue steel & wood are OUR preferences. NOT so with the current younger folks. So,, while I PREFER Old Model, 4 click SA's,, I can appreciate that the Company is successful,, selling a lot of guns,, and STILL offering many good SA's for us to enjoy. And,, even now,, with the LCP & Wrangler,, AFFORDABLE handguns for the working man.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:14 am 
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Ruger's business model today is akin to Motorola's model in the nineties - build becomes "assemble & test".
- Quality becomes 80% of accepted customer expectation.
- Repair becomes replace.
It is in fact much more cost effective to build to a level of acceptable returns, and replace rather than rework to please individual customers.
- When a customer gets a real shoddy product (or a dangerous one) and that customer stays silent or corrects the product themselves - it is recorded as "acceptable quality".
Value-Added time (VAT) is expressed as customer-expectation time - labor (hands-on) time from receiving to shipping. For example, roll stamping the warning on barrels is not VAT, as the customer could care less. Indexing the front sight to vertical is VAT, the customer expects it.

- Six minutes of labor is the practice, and the Wrangler I am told, is under six minutes of labor to produce.

My Wrangler will never be a Single-Six. Its no beauty. But it fires, and is reasonably accurate for a notch-sighted handgun. It is the lowest-recognized quality Ruger has ever produced, period. I see it as marketing's Hi-Point, the Ruger way. :oops:

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