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 Post subject: Re: Ruger Wrangler
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:36 am 
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yessiree, it is an "entry level" firearm at a price MOST of the new comers can afford...YES< we have and like our "collectibles" but at EVERY gun show,and EVERY big box gun shop around here ( the Fin, Great Lakes, etc) , the folks buy the 'Heritage' because it is affordable it and works.............NO it will never replace any of the six shooters we have or ever will have..............as noted above that so many of the "other" NEW model production stuff, ( American, etal) Ruger is a keeping up to maintain "market share"............. 8) :roll: :wink:

( besides, they ain;t buying the old model Single or Super Single Sixes that I have on my table at every show,,,sold ONE in the past 3 months..... :?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:44 am 
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Just noticed that............"The Wrangler™ is not available for sale in Minnesota and Massachusetts." :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Ruger Wrangler
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:58 am 
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From Ruger's website:

"The Wrangler™ is not available for sale in Minnesota and Massachusetts."

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:00 am 
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If it was considered a 'single six' it would be OK in Maryland right now. However since they named it something else it will have to go through the process of being "approved" here in Maryland. That could take months.

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 Post subject: Re: Ruger Wrangler
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:02 am 
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I am not a new shooter or collector, bought my first Ruger SS about 50 years ago.
Own a new and Old model S-S and Bearcats, never had a Heritage and can't wait to get my hands on a new silver Wrangler that I can say is mine.

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 Post subject: Re: Ruger Wrangler
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:18 am 
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I think the Wrangler will be a hit with Cowboy Action shooters with youngsters. 22 are allowed in the Buckaroo category and there were not many low cost options for quality revolvers. this may fill that gap. I hope they are a tough as the Ruger name.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:20 am 
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I’d almost guarantee they will be better then a Heritage.
A buddy of a buddy had one and the thing wouldn’t even fire 1/2 the time.
He said he was going to try and return it.


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 Post subject: Re: Ruger Wrangler
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:25 am 
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I have a beautiful ROCS Bearcat on display in the bookcase beside my recliner and a few marks put away, I may just get one to shoot and the grandkids can shoot it with out me worrying about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Ruger Wrangler
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:31 am 
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Oh the turd suckers. It's an entry level .22 single action that will be head and shoulders above the pot metal Heritage and sell for under $200. What's not to like?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:47 am 
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I have never owned a SA revolver. I have shot a friends Heritage, he paid $120 for it at a dealer it as a new gun, it was OK but did not impress me.
At this price I may try a new Wrangler.


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 Post subject: Re: Ruger Wrangler
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:57 am 
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"Pot metal" Craig? It's advertised as "alloy" and the Wrangler is "aluminum". Care to specify alloys on both of these?

The best thing I can see on the Wrangler is that they apparently used the Single-Six's internals complete with the transfer bar which the Heritage does not have.

The Heritage has an external, manually-engaged hammer-blocking "safety" which is kinda hokey but serves the purpose . . . sorta.

The Heritage is also available with a Magnum cylinder. Guess we'll see how its "alloy" frame deals with that over the long run.

Biggest advantage of the Heritage? It's SHINY! Looks cool. Will appeal to the newbies. (Also cheap!)

Will I buy a Heritage? No. Will I buy a Wrangler? Unlikely, but I'd still like to fondle one to see if it speaks to me. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Ruger Wrangler
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:35 am 
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The Heritage is ZAMAK, a zinc-based alloy with 4% aluminum content, aka pot metal. Used for its low melting point. The Wrangler appears to have an aluminum frame and grip frame. Big difference.

Why would the .22Mag make a difference? The pressure is the same. Although the Heritage uses the cheapest grade of steel used in firearms manufacture, 12L14. I would feel safe in assuming that Ruger is using the same alloys present in Single Six cylinders and barrels. I would also assume that the Ruger barrel is screwed into the frame with actual threads. Whereas the Heritage is "micro-threaded", pressed into the frame and held in place with adhesive. Zinc or steel, the Heritage has a sprayed on finish. That shiny flakes off easily. Cerakote is a good, tough finish. It's just not traditional. Which is fine and probably the best choice for aluminum.

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 Post subject: Re: Ruger Wrangler
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:14 am 
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I have been following all the comments & such,, yet,, so far,, nobody has put one in their hands & tested it.
There are a lot of good thoughts as well as negative ones.

I say let the market decide things.

Remember,, Ruger is in the business to make MONEY. Even Bill Ruger was keen on that. The guns are the product to that end.
Today's shooters are different than the shooters of yesteryear.

And if I recall all my Ruger lore,, Bill started this fine company by building a quality product,, at a much cheaper cost than the "big boys" at the time. Look where it's at now.
And think like this,,, as well noted above,, most of today's buyers are looking for CHEAP,, AND they expect a certain quality. BUT,,,, they also live in a "disposable" type of world now. Many do not expect stuff to last a few lifetimes,, and as such,, are willing to use the cost factor as a deciding point. Ruger by far does an excellent job of building a quality firearm,, but it all comes at a price. It USED to be that a Ruger cost less than "the big boys" and as such,, people bought them,, and over time,, found them to be "as good or better" than other brands. Nowadays,,, a Ruger (in general,) costs as much or almost as much as anybodies guns. Ruger is now "one of the big boys."

So,, while many of us,,, (myself included) will PREFER to buy an older or more expensive gun,, than something like this,,, let us not snear at an offering that can get shooters into a gun at an affordable price. Especially if it's new shooters & the gun is better built than other brands.

Lastly,, let's all await for them to get into the hands of knowledgeable shooters for proper judgement first,, BEFORE we pass judgement.

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 Post subject: Re: Ruger Wrangler
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:24 am 
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Here's a short article on the new Wrangler from American Rifleman.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articl ... -revolver/

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 Post subject: Re: Ruger Wrangler
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:32 am 
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contender wrote:
I have been following all the comments & such,, yet,, so far,, nobody has put one in their hands & tested it.


Long-term? Who knows? That will be the deciding factor. It does appear that Heritage has taken some shortcuts that Ruger avoided, since it appears that Ruger has merely gone to aluminum for the frame and a more economical finishing process, along with not providing a Magnum cylinder which is a considerable savings. And it's not like Ruger has no experience with aluminum frame rimfires . . . recall the Lightweights?

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