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 Post subject: Re: SR22 Pistol a POS?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:53 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: SR22 Pistol a POS?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:39 pm 
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hutchman wrote:
Don't feed the troll...........


Yea! When a Ruger is called a POS, I get a little wary of the OP....

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 Post subject: Re: SR22 Pistol a POS?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:51 pm 
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Yea! When a Ruger is called a POS, I get a little wary of the OP....


And with an astounding 12 whole posts :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: SR22 Pistol a POS?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:28 pm 
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I purchased a SR22P in early June. Test fire date was mid-May. I had checked lots of reviews, never saw one about the takedown lever problem. All the reviews I saw raved about this gun for fun plinking, which is exactly what I was looking for. When my takedown lever failure resulted in what one reviewer termed "dynamic disassembly" I went home, and *then* found the you tube videos about this problem.

I was disappointed - I thought paying more for a Ruger would get me away from problems like this, but my local dealer was really good about it and gave me another gun off the shelf. That one is a little more recent, and has had no problems after 1000+ rounds. THIS ONE is the gun I was reading about and looking forward to owning. If it happens again, I suspect Ruger will make it right, and by then they may have a longer-term solution to the problem. Until then, I'm gonna keep puttin this big grin on my face by going out and shooting my neat new little toy.

Even after having that problem, I still recommend this gun. I think it's that good at what it is intended to do.


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 Post subject: Re: SR22 Pistol a POS?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:16 pm 
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OSU Beaver wrote:
Bullethead, I agree with Twoboxer's comment. I spent A LOT of time researching the SR22P before I purchased it in May. I read some reviews of the takedown lever coming open during firing and causing trouble and of the slide stop damage. As I spent more time researching these issues I read where people posted back that those issues had been addressed by Ruger for subsequent production runs. In the case of the slide stop damage, Ruger began inserting a small steel pin at the rear of the slide notch so that the aluminum slide was not damaged. I also read that the takedown lever was changed so that it "clicked" into place and was no longer prone to opening during operation. I can tell you that my pistol was test fired at the factory on April 16, serial number 360-500XX, and that it came with a steel pin inserted into the slide notch and that the takedown lever does not come open without some encouragement and seems to really click into place securely. My advice would be that if you are concerned about these issues, just make sure you purchase one from a recent production run. I've had mine just over two months and have already put almost 3,500 rounds through it without any of the issues you mentioned. It is a really fun, and economical, gun to shoot.
Finally, my choice was between the SR22 and the Walther P22. For what it's worth, I read a lot more negative stuff online about the Walther than I did about the SR22. Good luck!
-Steve


Thank you for that information. That is exactly what I had hoped to hear from Ruger but I suppose their lawyers make sure they say nothing to acknowledge a problem ever existed when it is making improvements. Makes some sense to me and I've actually taken most of these posts to heart. I think my perspective is now more along the lines of what Twoboxer and a couple others have said regarding no such thing as a fail proof gun and Ruger certainly has a very good reputation. I think my GP100 stainless and my P97 stainless are terrific guns and I've had them for many years and fired many thousands of reloads through them without trouble. That's why I was so surprised to see the SR22 problems. Thanks again.


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 Post subject: Re: SR22 Pistol a POS?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:26 pm 
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Bullethead wrote:
I'd like your opinion. Do you think you would have bought this pistol if you had seen these videos beforehand?


Absolutely. I understand the guy who got his hand burnt being a tad upset, and possibly rightfully so, but he really should have calmed down and checked his language before posting a public video. I have no idea what caused the failure, it's just a video of him dropping F-Bombs and threatening to sue. Ruger had some QC issues for about a month with these, those issues seem to have been fixed and if you happened to get a bad one, they will take care of it. That's good enough for me.

My original comment stands. DA/SA .22s are a pretty new beast. If you want in, jump in. If you don't, grab a Mark III.


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 Post subject: Re: SR22 Pistol a POS?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:32 am 
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Msmith50 wrote:
I purchased a SR22P in early June. Test fire date was mid-May. I had checked lots of reviews, never saw one about the takedown lever problem. All the reviews I saw raved about this gun for fun plinking, which is exactly what I was looking for. When my takedown lever failure resulted in what one reviewer termed "dynamic disassembly" I went home, and *then* found the you tube videos about this problem.

I was disappointed - I thought paying more for a Ruger would get me away from problems like this, but my local dealer was really good about it and gave me another gun off the shelf. That one is a little more recent, and has had no problems after 1000+ rounds. THIS ONE is the gun I was reading about and looking forward to owning. If it happens again, I suspect Ruger will make it right, and by then they may have a longer-term solution to the problem. Until then, I'm gonna keep puttin this big grin on my face by going out and shooting my neat new little toy.

Even after having that problem, I still recommend this gun. I think it's that good at what it is intended to do.


After reading the post by "OSU Beaver" I was beginning to think he was probably right about Ruger having fixed the problems with the latch and the slide stop as he was convinced his gun had these new improved parts. But now, after paying closer attention to the test fire dates it turns out you have a newer gun, at least based on your mid-May test fire date versus his April test fire date, yet your gun's latch failed even though it presumably had new improved parts according to "OSU Beaver". So, now I'm back to being the skeptic that I started as.....this is a bummer.


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 Post subject: Re: SR22 Pistol a POS?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:28 pm 
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Sounds like you need to buy something else or you will never be happy.

Try to keep in mind that there are people out there, including some in the gun world, that could break a 4 foot section of 2 inch galvanized pipe.

Someone can sure break or blow up most any gun. If that person is one looking to sue someone rather than work for a living, they are going to advertise it, and You Tube seems to be the place they do it.

I don't go there. I trust the folks at Ruger more than I do some Bozo on You Tube.

You may be happier with a Taurus or something else like that.

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 Post subject: Re: SR22 Pistol a POS?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:48 pm 
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Try to keep in mind that there are people out there, including some in the gun world, that could break a 4 foot section of 2 inch galvanized pipe.

Someone can sure break or blow up most any gun. If that person is one looking to sue someone rather than work for a living, they are going to advertise it, and You Tube seems to be the place they do it.



How do you suppose someone could intentionally cause this failure and then control their injury to an acceptable level so they could sue?? This seems to be a well documented problem with this pistol. Ruger does have a track record of problems with new designs. The LCP, SR9, P97, P345, even the original P85 had parts failures. Good CS doesn't make the problem go away or make it OK. Same old story, guys with pistols that don't break think the guys unhappy with broken guns are whiners. :?

A certain number of ANYTHING and EVERYTHING breaks. Just now we know about it instantly. Buy another brand, but be advised Walther P22s have slides that break and hit the shooter in the face.

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 Post subject: Re: SR22 Pistol a POS?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:59 pm 
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louiethelump wrote:
Sounds like you need to buy something else or you will never be happy.

Try to keep in mind that there are people out there, including some in the gun world, that could break a 4 foot section of 2 inch galvanized pipe.

Someone can sure break or blow up most any gun. If that person is one looking to sue someone rather than work for a living, they are going to advertise it, and You Tube seems to be the place they do it.

I don't go there. I trust the folks at Ruger more than I do some Bozo on You Tube.

You may be happier with a Taurus or something else like that.


Well, Sir, (or is it MS/Madam?), yours is the most pathetic post I've seen to date in reaction to my concerns over the Ruger SR22. The subnormals that like to yell, "troll" or express horror over my lack of credentials because I've only wasted my time on this forum a few times before and, God forbid, those upset by my use of the term, "POS", (when I was just wondering if that term might apply to this gun.....which even I regret)......well......all of these reactions are clearly from people that don't have the intellectual capacity of a gnat and they don't faze me. But for you to admit in writing that you reject any evidence contrary to your blind loyalty to Ruger because it's on YouTube is amazing to me. Apparently the people that have acknowledged their experience with takedown latch failures in this thread are liars too, just like those folks in the videos I referenced. It must be a conspiracy against Ruger....right? I pray a moderator with some common sense will pull the plug on this thread before anymore posters like you show up.


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 Post subject: Re: SR22 Pistol a POS?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:05 pm 
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ArmedinAZ wrote:
louiethelump wrote:


Try to keep in mind that there are people out there, including some in the gun world, that could break a 4 foot section of 2 inch galvanized pipe.

Someone can sure break or blow up most any gun. If that person is one looking to sue someone rather than work for a living, they are going to advertise it, and You Tube seems to be the place they do it.



How do you suppose someone could intentionally cause this failure and then control their injury to an acceptable level so they could sue?? This seems to be a well documented problem with this pistol. Ruger does have a track record of problems with new designs. The LCP, SR9, P97, P345, even the original P85 had parts failures. Good CS doesn't make the problem go away or make it OK. Same old story, guys with pistols that don't break think the guys unhappy with broken guns are whiners. :?

A certain number of ANYTHING and EVERYTHING breaks. Just now we know about it instantly. Buy another brand, but be advised Walther P22s have slides that break and hit the shooter in the face.


Finally, the voice of reason speaks up.


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 Post subject: Re: SR22 Pistol a POS?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:13 pm 
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I never said or suggested anyone intentionally broke anything. Where did you get that? For someone to break something does not require them to do it intentionally. A foolishly loaded round of reloaded ammo will break a perfectly good gun for example.

Things do fail. I never said they were whiners. Where did you get that? I never said it.


ARE YOU MY WIFE RESPONDING TO THIS POST IN DISGUISE???????? LOL!!!

She reads into what I say to and "hears" what she wants to hear even though it was not said.

I have an associate at work that took a beautiful 600 plus dollar, pristine K22 8 3/8" pinned barrel and turned into a 300 dollar piece of junk in under a month. He breaks everything he touches. He is not alone.

A company that makes a lot of guns will have a percentage with problems. I am not sure what you are wanting to argue about, as we came to the same final conclusion: If you are that concerned about a You Tube video of someone with a broken gun, DO NOT BUY ONE! (which leads me to wonder why they happened to be filming the shooting session in the first place. I don't film mine. Do you film all your range sessions????)


Bullet head:

I am glad you liked my post. I am here for you.............. You seem a bit intolerant to opinions that are not yours. Do you have issues with others disagreeing with you? So you put blind faith in You Tube posts???? That kind of figures.

Get over yourself. I doubt a moderator is going to pull MY post where I suggest we give Ruger the benefit of the doubt, as opposed to you posting a presumption that a new Ruger product that in my experience with it works just fine as a "POS". THAT should warm Ruger people right up to you! YESSIR!!!!

If you don't want comment from others, send private e-mails and don't post on open forums.


Have a nice day, and BUY TAURUS!

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 Post subject: Re: SR22 Pistol a POS?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:41 pm 
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ArmedinAZ wrote:
How do you suppose someone could intentionally cause this failure and then control their injury to an acceptable level so they could sue??


The original link was done by a clown who posted it as "Grim Reviews". There's been a lot of debate about using Stinger's in the Mark series. If they're not acceptable in a Mk series, what does Ruger's manual say about using them in the lightweight SR22? If I wanted to intentionally break an SR22, I'd be shooting it with Stingers, or I'm sure I could find a way to make it fail so I could post a vulgar rant and threaten to sue.

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 Post subject: Re: SR22 Pistol a POS?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:52 am 
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I watched the GrimReviews video again. First it sounds like his vocabulary is pretty limited? That turns me off right away. Not that I'm a prude, but on Youtube is not the place for that kind of language. Just like the POS title to this thread.
It looks to me to be an ammunition problem as much as a mechanical problem? Can't tell for sure with the limited information from this guy. I see also this is his one and only video posted. Not much of a reviewer.
Good luck sueing Ruger with what you have for info available. Also as a sidebar, maybe if he used Magazines instead of "Clips" he would have had better luck? :-)

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 Post subject: Re: SR22 Pistol a POS?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:45 pm 
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Bullethead wrote:
Well, Sir, (or is it MS/Madam?), yours is the most pathetic post I've seen to date in reaction to my concerns over the Ruger SR22.....because I've only wasted my time on this forum a few times before...

And the troll finally shows his face. So predictable. :lol:


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