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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:01 pm 
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Jeepnik wrote:
Thumbcocker wrote:
Sometimes it is very lonely out here in humor land.


It's only lonely if your wit is greater than that of your audience. :lol:


I still think Vasquez has the best guns. :)

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:51 pm 
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If I were archery or muzzle loader hunting I would feel a little under gunned with a 45ACP as a back up sidearm for bear or other critter protection. A few summers ago I visited Shedhorn Sports in Ennis, Montana. A lot of the sales staff working there were part timers. Their primary profession was as big game guides. I talked to several of these fellas and to a man their first choice for a backup hand gun was a Glock 20SF. They liked the capability of the 180gr 1300 FPS 10mm heavy loads for bear, etc encounters. For me personally I will carry a 10mm, 44 spcl or 44 mag.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:25 am 
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This is what I carry in my 45 Redhawk when in the backcountry

https://www.garrettcartridges.com/45rho+ptech.html


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:02 am 
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If you son is comfortable with the Springfield and shoots it well, consider a 460 rowland conversion. 44 mag ballistics in a semi auto. Load it with your 45 acp Dies.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:31 pm 
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Dave, The Shedhorn is one of my favorite gun shops. I can spend a fair amount of time in there, when I stop in.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:42 pm 
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Bear Paw Jack wrote:
Dave, The Shedhorn is one of my favorite gun shops. I can spend a fair amount of time in there, when I stop in.


I spent about 2 hours and $900 when I was there a few years ago. You are correct. A very cool place and the staff is great. :D

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:35 pm 
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I am a police firearms instructor. I have carried all manner of semi-auto's to include the Glock. I currently am allowed a choice of duty weapon. I choose to carry a Sig P226R in 9mm. I am old enough to have carried Model 10 and 13 S&W revolvers when I first started out.

If I need a bear gun you can bet I'm carrying any one of my .41 Maggies or .45 Colt revolvers. If I'm getting charged, knocked over or rolling in the dirt, I don't wanna worry about stove pipes, FTF, popped mags, jams, etc.............
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:39 pm 
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Opened the string fearing the often-repeated messages. Not this time. Good! The popcorn is gone and the beer is getting warm, so my message needs to be short:

The best gun for bear is the strongest handgun you feel comfortable shooting under extreme pressure.

That's it for me.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:13 pm 
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Bigger is always better. Carry the biggest gun you can accurately control.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:53 am 
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Here are a couple of articles that address this topic.

https://www.ammoland.com/2018/02/defense-against-bears-with-pistols-97-success-rate-37-incidents-by-caliber/#axzz5SVlpwq6a

http://www.marksmanshipmatters.com/dangerous-predators-stopped-with-handguns/

Bigger is not necessarily the best answer.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:17 am 
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I can't think of any Ruger that would be a good gun for bears. How is a bear supposed to work a slide, cock a hammer, cycle a bolt, or drop a lever? then there is the whole issue of grip geometry, loading, holsters or slings. I just don't think bears have any business with any type of gun. : )

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:58 am 
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Pal Val wrote:
Opened the string fearing the often-repeated messages. Not this time. Good! The popcorn is gone and the beer is getting warm, so my message needs to be short:

The best gun for bear is the strongest handgun you feel comfortable shooting under extreme pressure.

That's it for me.
I wholeheartedly agree. For me, it is a Ruger® New Model Blackhawk® 4⅝" barrel 41 Remington® Magnum. I load it with these...
https://www.underwoodammo.com/collections/handgun-ammo/products/41-remington-magnum-265-grain-lead-wide-long-nose-gas-check?variant=18786989998137

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:54 am 
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*sigh* - I think the forum needs a "best bear defense handgun" sticky... or maybe just a whole new section dedicated to bear defense.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:32 am 
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I'm afraid that a bare bear defence thread would be unbearable :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:07 pm 
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My father was a DI in WWll, and taught me AIMED Fire. Fast forward to my time in LE where they taught “speed rock”, which is draw and fire from the side of your chest-unaimed essentially for that really close encounter. You should not use the “ speed rock” if you are using a ported gun. I really enjoyed the Marksmanship Matters article, it basically re-enforced my thoughts on the subject.
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