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 Post subject: Ruger Bisley 41 magnum
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:50 pm 
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I noticed Buds has a stainless Bisley 5.5” for $615.
I have been wanting a .41 and have all the goodies to load for it. I also Have considered a hunter model. However I am not sure if I would scope it and use it for hunting. Now if Ruger would add a rib like the hunter cut to 4 5/8 without the scope grooves I would be in heaven. But then I would have to have one in 44, 45, 41. I see that a company is accepting back orders on a 41 bisley hunter, however the regular bisley is avail now. Any reason that the hunter model would be a better gun than a standard bisley? I so like the Bisley grip, I dont own a plow handle and I wonder how the 41 would recoil in that grip?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:30 pm 
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The Hunter is, of course, cut for scope mounts. The rib would add a little weight that would help with felt recoil. I much prefer the Bisley grip. For me, it handles recoil better. Not as much roll up as the traditional grip. More of a direct push into the hand which is what I prefer. I have a 45 Colt/ACP convertible Bisley. A stout load will get your attention but it's not punishing. With the ACP cylinder in place it's pure fun to shoot. I imagine a 41 would be a pleasure to shoot especially with a slightly reduced handload. I guess the decision comes down to whether you would ever scope it or not.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:36 am 
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I could only consider the Hunter model if I wanted to scope it. At that, I prefer the SRH for optic use.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:00 am 
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I only have one 41 magnum Blackhawk with a Bisley grip, so I can’t speak to recoil in a plowhandle Blackhawk. However I would think you could find an acceptable level if you reload. I don’t think the 41 has more recoil than a 45 Colt really. I do have a Blackhawk in 45 LC, recoil has never been a negative in my opinion.

I do also love the Bisley grip frame.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:54 am 
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I have the same gun sold by AccuSport in their 2003 run. It is a lot of fun and .411 bullets work fine in it along with a dose of Acc#9.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:03 am 
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I think The Bisley is the one I want. I have a 32,44spcl,and 454 Bisley models. So all I need to add is a 22,41,45. Lol.
Jeff


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:05 pm 
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I have both the Hunter mdl., .41,s. Being all stainless they are pretty heavy. If you prefer blued revolvers Ruger did make some in the Bisley configuration with a seven and one half inch barrel. They are also all steel and are hard to find. Some had fluted cylinders and some did not.

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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:05 am 
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I had that gun, Bisley Hunter in 41 mag, years ago. I tried to use a scope on it but the location over the barrel threw off the balance for me and it was impossible to find a decent holster for it. I went to a regular Bisley and D&T'd a Weigand scope base on the reciever. I still use that gun to hunt with today.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 2:13 pm 
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I've had both the plow handle and Bisley in 41 magnum. The plow handle had a 6.5" barrel and the Bisley has a 7.5" Recoil with the same heavy loads, in my opinion, is easier to handle in the Bisley. I never found the plow handle especially difficult to handle with heavy loads but there is a noticeable difference to me in the felt or perceived recoil.


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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2019 11:08 am 
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338reddog wrote:
So all I need to add is a 22,41,45. Lol. Jeff


I laugh at your optimistic frugality.
What about all those other barrel lengths,,,,,, and finishes.
Almost done. Ha


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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2019 6:03 pm 
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I spent a bunch of time and money once upon a time putting a Burris 2x scope on a 41 Mag Blackhawk. I burned a crap load of ammunition dialing it in. Then the first time I took it deer hunting, I apparently bumped the scope while climbing into my treestand. A real nice buck presented a shot and I missed him by about 4ft at 25yds.

I went home, took off the scope and put a set of Millet sights I had used on a Super Blackhawk doing IHMSA.

I went out and shot it and was printing a tight group at 25yds with the open sights. I moved back to 50, 100 and 150yds, Kept them in the bull, only shot 20rnds of 175gr Winchester Silvertips doing that.

I sold the scope and mounts shortly after that.

I think that on big bore revolvers, you should be able to keep 6 shots in a 4" circle out to 100yds with decent open sights.

My 7 1/2" Bisley 45 does, I have 9 whitetails and a pig with it.

No more scoped revolvers for me.


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 6:41 am 
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Wow, your an amazing shot , I can't see a 4" circle at 100 yards, I did scope my 41mag blackhawk, and it is a challenge to shoot with the scope, but will keep practicing, maybe some shooting sticks or a rest of some kind will help, I put a Leupold 2x on mine, with the wiegand mount, I do like it, but it doesn't make it easier to shoot.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 6:43 am 
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I think that on big bore revolvers, you should be able to keep 6 shots in a 4" circle out to 100yds with decent open sights.

I can keep six shots in a 6” circle with a scope off of sand bags using a 45 Blackhawk Hunter, but in my world doing it with open sights is unheard of at 100 yds.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 8:57 pm 
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I agree, 4" at 100 yds & iron sights is very good shooting. Quite a few guns are capable of doing that, not many shooters are. A few of my six guns are scoped but I much prefer iron sights on my revolvers. And I agree with most others, the Bisley, at least for me is much easier to shoot with heavy loads over the plow handle. Once you start beyond 1200-1300 fps, you really feel the difference.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 7:45 pm 
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Quote:
I think that on big bore revolvers, you should be able to keep 6 shots in a 4" circle out to 100yds with decent open sights.


Hahahaha, I can't even see a 4" circle at 100 yards without an optic.


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