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Let's all look at this on a positive note.
We have a gent among us that has a true reason to buy another SA!;-)
Jeff
We have a gent among us that has a true reason to buy another SA!;-)
Jeff
Thanks for the follow-up, contender.contender said:...
To the OP,,, you tried to educate yourself,,, yet you failed to ask the serious Ruger folks by inquiring here. If your research had been done on this site,,, you may have uncovered the often discussed frame size discussions.
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As our esteemed Flatgate is so often fond of saying; "Read the ****ing manual." And if you didn't have a manual to read,, a polite call to Ruger would have gotten you a free manual.
It is true but while there is no official designation, most folks are going to assume that ".45Colt +P" means 32,000psi "Ruger only" loads.Salmoneye said:Forgive me, but...
Since when won't the Flat Top Blackhawk in .45 Colt not handle +P?
While it will NOT handle the Ruger Only 32,000CUP loads, it is my understanding that it will readily handle the 'Tier Two' 20,000CUP load data available...
Bottom page 14:
https://www.riflemagazine.com/magazine/PDF/HL%20246partial.pdf
Is this not true?
The tone of the responses 'may' have been due to the tone of the OP.contender said:While I think many of the first responses to the OP were a bit strongly worded...
In this case the large frame gun is several ounces lighter.contender said:MANY people want a lighter to carry,, big bore handgun.
It's up to the end user to decide if it's worth it. If you're just plinking, probably not. However, lots of folks use these guns for woods carry and/or hunting and for that, more is better. Standard bullet weight for the .45Colt is 250-260gr. Optimum loads typically yield the following velocities:BrotherInArms said:Even if true: For a mere 7% muzzle velocity increase you're raising pressure by nearly half again (using the TiteGroup powder numbers for comparison, picked at random). Or am I off in the weeds? And that achieved with a 2% lighter bullet. So, while muzzle energy would be increased a bit, and it might shoot a bit flatter: Is it worth it?
Ha! Before I started reading up on lever-action carbines in 45 Colt, I never even know there was such a thing as "Ruger-only" loads.CraigC said:It is true but while there is no official designation, most folks are going to assume that ".45Colt +P" means 32,000psi "Ruger only" loads.
It's been my experience that throwing fuel on fires is rarely conducive to putting them outCraigC said:The tone of the responses 'may' have been due to the tone of the OP.
Is there some way to know, when you see "+P" noted, if it's a Tier II, III or IV "+P" load?CraigC said:Tier I (14,000psi for all pre-war guns) - 900fps.
Tier II (21,000psi for post-war Colt's, N-frames, Ruger mid-frames, etc.) - 1100fps
Tier III (32,000psi "Ruger only" levels for large frame Rugers, Dan Wesson, Anaconda, Freedom Arms, etc.) - 1400fps
Tier IV (+50,000psi for Ruger Redhawks, custom five-shots, Freedom Arms, BFR) - +1600fps
The manufacturer of the ammo should explain the +P designation of their ammo. I know Buffalo Bore ammo usually has quite an explanation of their ammo online.BrotherInArms said:Tier I (14,000psi for all pre-war guns) - 900fps.
Tier II (21,000psi for post-war Colt's, N-frames, Ruger mid-frames, etc.) - 1100fps
Tier III (32,000psi "Ruger only" levels for large frame Rugers, Dan Wesson, Anaconda, Freedom Arms, etc.) - 1400fps
Tier IV (+50,000psi for Ruger Redhawks, custom five-shots, Freedom Arms, BFR) - +1600fps
Is there some way to know, when you see "+P" noted, if it's a Tier II, III or IV "+P" load?