Sending Single Six in for repair

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Timber Faller

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We have an old Single Six that needs a re-blue. It has not been converted with the transfer bar safety. Don't want it converted either. If we send it in, would Ruger insist on putting in a transfer bar?
 
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They will convert it, but do they still send back the old model parts?

Some people have reported Ruger will keep the gun if there is something unsafe about it and offer a replacement, which of course would be a new model... I'm not saying there is anything wrong with your gun, or this would happen to you....
 

OldePhart

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I don't know why anyone would send a gun to Ruger for bluing...I've just not been impressed with what I've seen coming out of Ruger in terms of anything related to fit/finish. Do they have a special "custom shop" level team for things like re-bluing old guns? If not I'd find a good independent gunsmith to blue it and tell him you don't want it converted...
 

varminter22

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Although Ruger will return the original parts, I understand they also stamp a code on the grip frame (unseen with grips installed) to indicate they did convert the revolver. (I had an old model Blackhawk like that.)

Is that a big deal? Probably not to most folks, but I'm thinking it might degrade the value to a collector.

There are plenty of fine gunsmiths. I personally would go that route.
 

Hondo44

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Timber Faller said:
We have an old Single Six that needs a re-blue. It has not been converted with the transfer bar safety. Don't want it converted either. If we send it in, would Ruger insist on putting in a transfer bar?

Timber Faller,

Welcome to this forum!

You ask a very good question for which much mis-information abounds.

It's been my experience that Ruger's re-finish/re-blue, based on those I've had done are the best that you can get and more reasonably priced than any local smith for a "new gun level" blue job. To me a factory re-blue that makes the gun look like it was a restoration to new is preferred. I believe a separate specialized team does the work. They are polished on the factory specialized equipment using the factory techniques. The flat surfaces are always flat, original factory contours are maintained/restored, and all lettering is clear and undistorted by over buffing. Note: as for any re-blue done by anyone, serious deep rust pits can not always be completely removed.

All the Ruger guns I've seen or had re-finished by Ruger look as good but usually better than any new Rugers.

Some want a custom blue, shinier than new and/or custom polished and are willing to pay more for that. That's fine. But most local refinishes cost more, are over buffed, and don't look as good as a new Ruger. Some look worse than the worn gun to begin with, and those will make you cry. (It's not unlike trying to get a decent car re-paint job.) And if you send the gun out, you'll pay shipping both ways, and wait who knows how long. The success of the final result is in the eye and the wallet of the beholder.

So it all depends on what you want.

Now consider these facts to make an informed decision:

Current Ruger cost for a revolver re-finish is $130 plus $30 return shipping from their website here: http://www.ruger.com/service/serviceFees.html And it will be returned in from 11 to 14 days.

You can request that the safety retrofit conversion be done for free including the shipping to Ruger; just call Ruger and they will supply a pre paid shipping label and usually a box to send the gun to them, and return ship it back to you for free. Therefore, no $30 return shipping charge as shown above if you request only a refinish.

Yes they will refinish the alum alloy grip frames and other parts. It will not be dyed black and anodized as originally, it will be powder coated (a superior baked on finish in my opinion) like the current new Rugers.

Yes, they will convert your Ruger, whether you request it or not (no changes or machining are done to the revolver itself, only parts are replaced.)

Yes, your old parts are returned, with the exception of any specific part (not the entire gun) that is worn beyond a safe limit.

Yes, you can remove all interior parts and keep them before sending.

Yes, the gun will usually (except in a few cases) be stamped with an R on the bottom of the frame, under the trigger guard which must be removed to view the R.

Yes, the retrofit safety parts can easily be removed and the old parts replaced in the gun.

What do I do?
For old models, I always request the safety retrofit and ask for a refinish/re-blue as well by putting a note in with the gun. I remove and keep the old parts and grips. I pay a total of $130. I would also have new models done by Ruger and gladly pay the postage.


Here's the last Ruger I had done at the factory. (I paid shipping for this Hawkeye because there is no Ruger factory safety retrofit kit for it. I replaced the powder coated grip frame with a stainless steel GF:
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I hope this was helpful for making your decision.
 

eveled

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If the gun has already been converted and stamped with an R, but was unconverted before it came into your possession, will Ruger still do the re-conversion for free? Also, after an old model is converted, will it still index on the ejector rod?
 

Hondo44

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eveled said:
If the gun has already been converted and stamped with an R, but was unconverted before it came into your possession, will Ruger still do the re-conversion for free? Also, after an old model is converted, will it still index on the ejector rod?

Yes it will. The safety retrofit is different than the New Model transfer bar parts. You still have to cock the hammer to half cock which is what indexes the chambers to the ejector rod and loading chute.

However the Bearcat New model is different than the other NM single actions. The New model uses the same parts as the retrofit kit; with loading notch on the hammer and correct chamber indexing.
 

eveled

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Hondo44 said:
eveled said:
If the gun has already been converted and stamped with an R, but was unconverted before it came into your possession, will Ruger still do the re-conversion for free? Also, after an old model is converted, will it still index on the ejector rod?

Yes it will. The safety retrofit is different than the New Model transfer bar parts. You still have to cock the hammer to half cock which is what indexes the chambers to the ejector rod and loading chute.

However the Bearcat New model is different than the other NM single actions. The New model uses the same parts as the retrofit kit; with loading notch on the hammer and correct chamber indexing.

OK, makes sense now. The retrofitted single six will load like a Bearcat. Thanks.

My Lypsy's flat top, indexes on the chambers, but has no half cock. Are all the new model mid frame flat tops the same? I'm beginning to understand why the old models are so desirable. Ed
 

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Be aware that if the gun really has collector's value, a refinish/rebluing by anyone but the factory (and possibly even by them) will reduce that value.
 
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