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Hunter
Is the P345 pistol as bad as I've heard people say even after removing the magazine safety? Rumors I hear is that you never know when you'll get a FTF. I want to use mine as a loaded night stand pistol.
they way i heard it was ,if you dry fired it WITHOUT a magazine ,would cause the "click-no-bang" situation.hittman said:If I remember the internet stories about these, some claimed that if the gun was ever dry fired you never knew when you'd get a "click-no-bang" situation. So you sure as heck 1. didn't want to buy one used and 2. couldn't trust it for concealed carry or home defense.
No idea if that was true even though many were parroting it. Being a revolver guy, I never gave them a second look and bought a P90DC. Of course, Illinois didn't allow concealed carry then either.
exavid said:The P345 has a magazine safety and wouldn't fire without the magazine so there was no bang or click. Many pistols and rifles don't like be dry fired without a snap cap in the chamber. Especially if they have a pretty strong hammer spring it can damage or break off the firing pin to slam it to the end of it's strike with no resistance to slow it down to a stop as a primer or snap cap is in place. This is not a fault of the gun. In fact I find it a good guarantee that you won't have misfires due to light primer strikes.
I'm still irked at myself for trading my P345. I still feel it was the best of the Ruger P pistols. I still like my SR40C very much and it is a better carry pistol than the .45 due to it's smaller size.
That's it. Without a magazine in place, dry firing would result in the firing pin hitting the "flag" of the magazine disconnect. Either or both parts could deform because of this. This could result in there not being enough clearance when a magazine was in place (lifting the disconnect above the firing pin) that either the firing pin could not reach the primer or would do so once, but not return rearward enough to be struck by the hammer again.remshooter said:they way i heard it was ,if you dry fired it WITHOUT a magazine ,would cause the "click-no-bang" situation.hittman said:If I remember the internet stories about these, some claimed that if the gun was ever dry fired you never knew when you'd get a "click-no-bang" situation. So you sure as heck 1. didn't want to buy one used and 2. couldn't trust it for concealed carry or home defense.
No idea if that was true even though many were parroting it. Being a revolver guy, I never gave them a second look and bought a P90DC. Of course, Illinois didn't allow concealed carry then either.
MountainWalker said:Check out page 17 of your manual. Dry firing with magazine out will damage you pistol. Best way to check if the gun is reliable is to fire four boxes of ammunition without malfunction. If you can do this, you should be good to go.
Good point, same is true with my SR9c & SR40c pistols. I agree with your assessment of a design flaw. Somehow Ruger must believe that this safety feature will give them an advantage in liability claims.loaded round said:That's the reason you the magazine safety. You can not do any damage to your pistol after removal of these parts. You can damage your pistol if force it to fire w/o the magazine inserted. That's why we P345 fans remove the magazine safety ''AKA cleaning the rear sight'' from our pistols, not because we just don't like mag safeties. Mag safety was a design flaw in this pistol.