DA_TriggR4Ruger
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welder said:
HUGE +1 to that!
Done with plastic guns?
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HUGE +1 to that!
DA_TriggR4Ruger
Hunter
I wish the polymer guns WERE that inexpensive. I usually don't see them less than $500 OTD. Look at your Big 3 for example
Springfield: (XD, XDM, or XDS)
Glock (17, 19, 22, 23, 21 etc)
S&W (SD9/40 series and M&P series)
These can be had for no less than $450 it seems. $750.00 on the high side!
By investing a very minor amount of money more, you get to move up to a Beretta or CZ, or Sig even.
Now I will admit there exist several truly inexpensive polymer based guns out there, like a Sccy Pistol http://www.sccy.com/ and several of the Rugers seems to retail low, but mostly cant find them less than the $450 range.
I could see the price factor being a valid argument if the difference was greater.
Notice I did not mention any 1911s, they are almost a class of their own when factoring price. From the most humble RIA $450.00 gun to the most expensive Les Bear or Nighhawk. I will save that for a different thread.
Springfield: (XD, XDM, or XDS)
Glock (17, 19, 22, 23, 21 etc)
S&W (SD9/40 series and M&P series)
These can be had for no less than $450 it seems. $750.00 on the high side!
By investing a very minor amount of money more, you get to move up to a Beretta or CZ, or Sig even.
Now I will admit there exist several truly inexpensive polymer based guns out there, like a Sccy Pistol http://www.sccy.com/ and several of the Rugers seems to retail low, but mostly cant find them less than the $450 range.
I could see the price factor being a valid argument if the difference was greater.
Notice I did not mention any 1911s, they are almost a class of their own when factoring price. From the most humble RIA $450.00 gun to the most expensive Les Bear or Nighhawk. I will save that for a different thread.
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Single-Sixer
I look at my 2 Glocks as tools......
DA_TriggR4Ruger
Hunter
Well I took a GREAT condition Glock 32 in trade over the weekend. It's loaded with features incl. Night sites. I may keep this one...
FergusonTO35
Hunter
I got my Glock 19 gen. 4 in a pawn shop for $400.00. Other than a little powder residue it looked brand new and came with all the original accessories.
DA_TriggR4Ruger
Hunter
I've just been using it as a carry weapon. Lol. The lil guy is growing on me. Almost forget he's there. Great lightweight.
DA_TriggR4Ruger
Hunter
Well, a buddy of mine made me an offer I could not refuse on it...
Sry. I tried. Well I got most of the $$ for my next 1911 now.
Sry. I tried. Well I got most of the $$ for my next 1911 now.
OK, I'll explain why I'm not a fan of Glocks and it has nothing to do with reliability, appearance or anything like that.
I jumped on the Glock bandwagon back in the 80's, bought a 23,20 and a 21. Put them in the safe and pretty much forgot about them.
Then a while back, I started noticing the values of used Glocks, and got a real sick feeling. While my 1911's and other guns bought along then had all appreciated nicely, the Glocks were now worth less than I paid all those years ago.
Why is this? That isn't what is supposed to happen with quality made firearms.
Still think the video is interesting and wonder if that flex was designed in or just something that is.
I jumped on the Glock bandwagon back in the 80's, bought a 23,20 and a 21. Put them in the safe and pretty much forgot about them.
Then a while back, I started noticing the values of used Glocks, and got a real sick feeling. While my 1911's and other guns bought along then had all appreciated nicely, the Glocks were now worth less than I paid all those years ago.
Why is this? That isn't what is supposed to happen with quality made firearms.
Still think the video is interesting and wonder if that flex was designed in or just something that is.
DA_TriggR4Ruger
Hunter
True. Dealer cost on a new Gen 4 whatever model is about $460. A little higher on the comp. Models. Retail is slightly higher than that...
DA_TriggR4Ruger
Hunter
I see more depreciation from the Springfield XDM/XDS.
DixieBoy said:
You have to remember the search for the most accurate 1911 possible has made them unreliable. The WWII era 1911 was extremely reliable. In terms of functional simplicity the Glock beats everything, but the historical reliability of both are equal.
I have seen both fail but in modern combat I give the edge to Glock because of superior round count. Also for complete reliability the Glock should be used in model 17 form with Fmj as this is what the design was based on. Other calibers tend to be less reliable. The 1911 should be 5 inch with Fmj rounds. If the 1911 were not reliable the USMC would not be using it again.
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