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Blackhawk Convertable

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I'm going to disagree...kind of. The 40 die will NOT size the 10 fully to the base. That is the critical place where bulging occurs. If you buy a Redding G-RX die, that will smooth out any bulge. It's a push through die. So it completely sizes the case top to bottom. I run all my reloads through it. Most go through easily. But every once in a while one goes through hard. Better to catch now than having to punch a bullet out of the barrel later...
 

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...and I have to respectfully disagree with you. I have two sets of 10mm dies, Dillon and Redding Carbide dies. I just checked both die boxes and they are marked 40 S&W/10 MM. I load for two different 10 mm pistols with these two die sets and also reload my Son's two 40 S&W pistols with these dies without an ounce of trouble.


Blackhawk Convertable said:
I'm going to disagree...kind of. The 40 die will NOT size the 10 fully to the base. That is the critical place where bulging occurs. If you buy a Redding G-RX die, that will smooth out any bulge. It's a push through die. So it completely sizes the case top to bottom. I run all my reloads through it. Most go through easily. But every once in a while one goes through hard. Better to catch now than having to punch a bullet out of the barrel later...
 

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Hmmm. Not a 40/10 mm user, but can you reload 40 with 10 mm dies but not 10 mm with 40 dies? I have some dedicated 44 Special dies that won't fully size a 44 Magnum case, just wondering it it's the same with 40 S&W and 10 mm? Dedicated 40 S&W dies?
 

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After being an avid reloader for over 45 years, I sort have developed an insight on reloading. Since the 10 mm case/round was developed prior to the 40 S&W case/load, it makes much more sense for the die manufacturers to make 10 mm/40 S&W dies that would handle both cases and not just a dedicated 40 S&W die set. That's exactly what the manufacturers did. However, the older 44 Spl die sets would not full length size a 44 Mag case, however after the 44 Mag Ruger and S&W revolvers came out around 1955, all die sets made after that date were dual caliber die sets. As Elmer Keith once said "I was there", so was I.

quote="mikld"]Hmmm. Not a 40/10 mm user, but can you reload 40 with 10 mm dies but not 10 mm with 40 dies? I have some dedicated 44 Special dies that won't fully size a 44 Magnum case, just wondering it it's the same with 40 S&W and 10 mm? Dedicated 40 S&W dies?[/quote]
 

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I guess my dies are different. Won't argue the point, but while "I wasn't there" I do know what my tools do and how they are marked. But then I've only been reloading since summer of '69 and don't claim to know everything (I only reload; 9mm, 45 ACP. 38 Special, 357 Magnum, 44 Special, 44 Magnum, 45 Colt, 223, 303 B, 308 Win., 30-06, 7.62x54r, 7.62x39 and 12 gauge)...
 

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I'd like to blow my own horn also if I may. To date I shoot and reload 22 Hornet, 22K-Hornet, 222 Rem, 223/5.56, 6 mm, 7 mm Rem Mag, 7 mm STW, 25-06, 257 Wby, 30 Carbine, 308 Win, 30-06, 300 WBY, 338 Win Mag, 375 H&H. Pistol rounds are 380, 9 mm, 38/357, 40 S&W/10 mm, 41 mag, 44 mag, 45 ACP, 45 Colt and 455 Casull. Just bought dies for my new 224 Valkyrie AR15, but have not used them yet. Load on 2 Dillon 550B's, Dillon 650XL, Redding T-7, and a Redding single station press. I do shoot a lot!


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mikld said:
I guess my dies are different. Won't argue the point, but while "I wasn't there" I do know what my tools do a nd how they are marked. But then I've only been reloading since summer of '69 and don't claim to know everything (I only reload; 9mm, 45 ACP. 38 Special, 357 Magnum, 44 Special, 44 Magnum, 45 Colt, 223, 303 B, 308 Win., 30-06, 7.62x54r, 7.62x39 and 12 gauge)...
 

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If you look, I think you'll note that more die sets these day say something like .38 Spl/.357Mag, or .44 Spl./.44 Mag. so the .40/10MM combo just might work. I don't have .40 or a 10MM, sorry but I do have 38/357 and 44/44mag dies. What I did was set the dies up for the shorter cartridge and make a spacer that I can put between the die and press to work with the longer cartridge. RCBS now sells those spacers but I made mine years before they came out. Now I can resize the mag brass with the die set up for the shorter case without the use of a spacer. (RCBS dies. Can't speak about other brands.) Then put the spacer on the expander or seater depending on what you're doing and load away.
I only mention this as it may be applicable to the 40/10MM debate. Contact the die amaker and confirm if you can do this.
Paul B.
 

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Hi...
They should work just fine.
I use carbide dies for 38/357, 44Sp/44Mag, 40/10mm with no problems.
I will add that I buy separate die sets for different calibers. I also buy separate seating dies for different bullets in the same caliber. I also use separate die sets for my RockChucker and Hornady LnLs.
I don't like to continually readjust dies so I set them up for the cartridge, bullet style and press that I am going to load them on and set the locking ring.
I also have been buying separate powder measure units for each caliber that I load on my LnLs. I just don't like to adjust things once they are set up for a particular cartridge and load.
 
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