Long range HEMI ammo - USMC wants to buy

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GunnyGene

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The USMC wants some new ammo. But it hasn't been invented yet. Any takers? :wink:

Excerpt:

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog...nd-electro-muscular-incapacitation-munitions/

"Small Arms Long-Range Human Electro-Muscular Incapacitation (HEMI) Munition"

The Marine Corps is seeking innovative technologies to design a low-cost (< $1,000 per round) HEMI munition that can be employed via a conventional DoD small Arms weapon with the system, subsystem, and component performance specifications and system attributes below:

1. A minimum safe range of 5 meters and a maximum effective range of 100+ meters

2. Deliver non-lethal human incapacitation duration of effect (threshold of 30 seconds to an objective of greater than 3 minutes)

3. Deliver non-lethal human incapacitation effect with an overall charge of ~50 Coulombs or less (Commercial-off-the-shelf HEMI waveform's deliver a total charge of ~100 Coulombs)

4. Suitable projectile flight stability to achieve the min-safe/max effective range capability with a low risk of significant injury with respect to the blunt impact effects of this round "hitting" human targets accurately at 100+ meters

5. Advanced reliable round attachment capability to a human body and through common natural clothing (i.e., fabric, denim, leather, etc.) to ensure delivery of HEMI effects for the required time duration mentioned above

6. HEMI waveform generator capable of effectively inducing non-lethal HEMI effects Effective compact battery suitable for small arms weapon ammunition

7. A robust form-factor commensurate with a small arms weapon system and capable of withstanding the gun launch accelerations associated with caliber of the weapon selected.

Note: acceptable calibers could range from .38 caliber/9 mm pistol round form-factors (e.g., commensurate to the Shock-Rounds HEMI .38 caliber bullet to the 12-gauge Taser International XREP HEMI round, or the Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate (JNLWD) 40mm HEMI round). The exact caliber selected will depend on the proposer's innovative approach to meet all the HEMI munition requirements described in specifications above.
 

mikld

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Yep, I like Mobuck's post! Sorta a less lethal "kill them all and let God sort them out"...
 

grobin

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Well sort of mentioned in passing is Tasers 12 ga round but not low cost (~$200ea in quantity), well maybe if you are the US government!

The one possible candidate doesn't meet the small arms part as it uses two lasers to ionize air and that caries the disabling charge. So far tests have shown about 7 chances of being lethal out of ten with one fail. Don't know if it's a serious project, some students farting about that accidentally got published or a real project.
 
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