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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:18 am 
Hunter

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I prefer beer.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:51 am 
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Mike J wrote:
Thank you Gramps. I didn't grow up in the city but in Forest Park. Just outside 285. My older sister was 4 years older than me & legal age was 18. When I was 14 I was hanging out with her friends partying & going to bars. When I was 17 I was sneaking in by myself. By 18 I was hanging out with strippers & hitting the after hours clubs. You are right many of these drugs when used properly can be a blessing. When misused they lead to hell.


I was in Atlanta for about two weeks in '73 at Father Lloyd's Place. My friend's Spitfire died about 75 miles south of there(limped it in to a gas station). We were on our way from Florida to Maryland. We got a ride from some young guys into the city and they dropped us off on Peachtree street. I was 23 and my friend was 22. We had little money.

Father Lloyd would cruise by in his '65 Chevy wagon looking for wayfarers to stay at his old house. He was gay but would not try to push it(maybe on the younger guys). You could stay there for a dollar a night. He was a pseudo priest and had a younger guy working with him.

I worked day jobs until I had enough to get back to Md on a bus.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:55 am 
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It's easy to get in trouble with substances that are addictive and it doesn't just happen to "stupid" people.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:18 am 
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Addiction is NOT a disease.
That word is used because people don't want to accept responsibility for inflicting themselves with the addiction.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:24 am 
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Bull Barrel wrote:
Addiction is NOT a disease.
That word is used because people don't want to accept responsibility for inflicting themselves with the addiction.


I've never bought-in to it even though I went to AA meetings for years.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:42 am 
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exavid wrote:
If fentanyl is so dangerous what do junkies want the stuff for?


Ask the same question about cigarettes.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:13 am 
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mohavesam wrote:
Ask the same question about cigarettes.

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BRAVO!

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480,000
Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year
in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from
secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually,
or 1,300 deaths every day.
On average, smokers die 10 years earlier
than nonsmokers. - - - - Nov 28, 2018

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:36 am 
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480,000 MISERABLE, FILTHY deaths.

Farmers cultivate the crop that only kills people, nothing else. Every employee of a tobacco company only harms people, none of them enhance human life. Retailers hand over nothing but harm to people, some young, too young to understand. The entire industry targets mental midgets.

We refused several intense sales campaigns trying to get our store(s) to sell tobacco. We refused.

Tobacco is the true "gateway drug". In all my travels, I cannot recall a junkie who was not a smoker.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:42 am 
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Well, I had the opinion that some people just have addictive weakness and I was not one of them... until one December a number of years ago I realized I had spent over 5 grand on guns and gun stuff in the last 3 months.....

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:52 am 
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Physical, physiological addictions are quite different than most behavioral types.
Fentanyl is quite different also, akin to Russian roulette with an automatic.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:48 pm 
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exavid wrote:
If fentanyl is so dangerous what do junkies want the stuff for?

It is a cheap high, and there is always a supply available. I think that the Mexicans make a lot of it.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:42 pm 
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RonT wrote:
I prefer beer.

That too can become an addiction.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:21 pm 
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In Ketchikan, AK I had an office a floor below the Flight Service Station. I walked down the three flights from my office to talk to the Airport manager, an ex-cop. In the stairwell I smelled what to me was like burning wire. I hurried to the manager's office and he walked back to the stairs with me to see what was going on. We'd just gotten inside the stairwell when he took a sniff and said to me, "What the heck, have you never smelled pot before?" I was a bit embarrassed but I never had. In Alaska it was legal but I'd never been around it.

Hank, the airport manager had a box full of bongs, weed, and other drug items he collected in the trash cans near the entry to the security check point. He collected it until he had a box full and then took it to the Ketchikan PD so they could burn it with the stuff they confiscated.

Funny in a way because at that time those dope heads could have taken the stuff on board with them as baggage. The might have been busted when they got to Sea Tac airport in WA but probably not back in 1977

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:54 pm 
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How can it be proven that smoking caused cancer?
Can it be proven if a person doesn't smoke they will not get cancer?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:25 pm 
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Bull Barrel wrote:
How can it be proven that smoking caused cancer?
Can it be proven if a person doesn't smoke they will not get cancer?


You can't absolutely prove either premise. But the overwhelming evidence and statistics do present a very strong likelihood.

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