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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:46 pm 
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IMHO it's a matter of upbringing. In my youth I met plenty of ''senior citizens" who never learnt their manners and could have used a trip to the woodshed, now that I am a "senior citizen" I still keep running into them.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:25 pm 
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wunbe wrote:
Trump comes by his jerk behavior honestly given his Big Apple roots.

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Maybe you should do a little research and DISCOVER the truth about President Trump and his truly generous nature. NOT a "jerk" by ANY stretch of the imagination.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:52 am 
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I hold doors and help folks if needed. Once I made a special effort to open and hold a door for a guy in a wheelchair and he cussed me but I just walked away. Having had a disabled person in my family, I can understand some just feel that way.
I don't buy meals often but I have offered to buy drunk's a meal when they asked for money since I knew well enough they would take whatever $$ and buy liquor.
I was at the counter of a Burger King one day and the guy in front of me was trying to order food. After going through his pockets, he was still short of even the econo menu I normally order so catching the BK girl's eye, I held up a couple $$ and nodded toward the guy. She winked but next thing I notice the construction workers in line have huddled around the guy and added his meal to their order(s). They saw it same as I did so if the guy was a freeloader, he'd fooled all of us. When he sat at their table I was convinced he really did need the help cause if they called him out it wasn't going to end well.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:15 am 
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Colonial girl,

I'm not saying what's in his heart . Its how all too often he acts in public -- elbowing lesser statesmen out of the way to get into the camera's eye, for example. That's pure Homus Newyorkus.

I voted for him and will again and support much of what he does but he goes full jerk once in a while.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:38 am 
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President Trump does have some actions or things about him that I don't admire, yet I am convinced he`s God`s man of the hour to save, turn around or delay this country from armageddon for awhile. If ANY democrat was elected president at this point I believe we would be soon pushed in a civil war, and ultimately the second coming as they all for sure seem to be wanting to destroy this country, and bring us down to the third world gutter. The modern day demoncrats have used socialist schooled young impressionable dupes and the run of the mill ignorant level young fools that are mainly interested in disruption for their entertainment purposes. They just babble nonsense, believe and repeat lies of their paid professional handlers and want to raise hell. How or why would any halfway intelligent adult swallow the demoncrat party line is beyond me but I can see that they have to be blinded and led by the devil himself is the only explanation.
All one should need judge for themselves is to observe the lying immoral type people the demoncrat party draws. A party that champions killing millions by abortion, rewards sluggards, wants to use Illegals to get in power, legalize drugs, tried to bar Trumps appointees with lies and false charges, on and on. When you see the top rat demoncrats like Schumer, Feinstein, Warren, Pelosi etc that should tell the dumbest something.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:52 am 
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You never know how a gesture is going to be taken. When I bought a new Chevy Cruz back in 2011 it had the Sirius XM radio package as part of the deal. I was listening to willies roadhouse as I was turning into the parking lot of the local grocery store one day soon after. When I found an empty parking space there was a car in the space next to it. A young lady had the door partially open on the passenger side so I stopped. Being retired and enjoying my air conditioning and vintage tunes, I was in no hurry. A couple of other young ladies brought a wheel chair around and she got into it. At that point I was thankful I had been so blessed that my only inconvenience was to wait a short while to park. Once they were on their way and clear of the space I began to pull on into the empty one. That is when the young lady turned in her chair and saluted me with her social finger.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:17 am 
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A young girl (divorced) recently moved in across the street with her 8 year old son. We met her briefly while she was still in the process of repainting the house. Two weeks ago, me and my wife made a big batch of vegetable soup and I thought it would be nice to bring hersome in a tupperware container. She said she loves soup and we all chatted for about 15 minutes.
She never said "thanks, the soup was good" or even returned the tupperware and it's been two weeks. And she's been outside while we were out the too. Oh well...

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:43 am 
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Kevin wrote:
Contender.
Yes, you have a valid point. I think in regards to driving, it’s most kind to simply drive according to the rules of the road, just keep traffic moving and it’s best for everyone around you.

At the grocery store, I’ll pay more attention to that the next time I let someone cut in, make sure no one else is behind me.

Good point though.

A good point BUT, if letting one car make a turn or letting one car in line makes someone late for an appointment or picking a child up then that person has some serious planning skills. Perhaps they should have left earlier. If it is required that I be a certain place at a certain time I plan ahead so I will generally arrive early. If someone is being courteous to someone else it will not adversely affect my plans.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:16 pm 
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There is the story of Phillip Stanhope, Lord Chesterfield. He became known as the paradigm of manners and good breeding.
One day while walking down the street in London, one of his servants approached him and asked for instructions for a task. Chesterfield told the man what to do, then stepped off the sidewalk to let him pass. Chesterfield 's companion, another nobleman said:
"Why did you step into the street to let that man pass ? He is no gentleman!"
"No, but I am."

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:46 pm 
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FM,, I fully agree that many folks need to make sure to plan properly to be wherever they need to be on time & allow for delays. I used the examples as that,, just a few of the many examples out there as to why you should not stop to let someone out.
More importantly,,, is the fact that a good samaritan, may also cause a wreck behind them due to an unexpected stoppage by a car in front of them when they are moving, looking at a green light,, and suddenly find the car in front of them stops. Who gets blamed? Not the good samaritan, as they most likely didn't even see the wreck behind them. Not the person who had to stop because of the samaritan,,, but the person who gets the ticket will be the one who was moving,,, and following the flow, and hit the car in front of them. The legal point is that they were either too close, or not paying enough attention, or My main point is the disruption of the flow of traffic,,. That's why traffic lights were invented, to keep the flow, and allow everyone a chance to go in a timely manner.

I brought this up,,, as I recently saw something like this happen. A 4 lane road,,, heavy traffic, both lanes full,,, stopped at a red light. A wally world & shopping area on the right,,, a gas station on the left. A car wanted out of the gas station. The light changed,, traffic started moving. About 11-12 cars went forward, the traffic was moving. Suddenly a car stopped to let the car out of the gas station,, and a few cars skidded to a stop. The car that got out,, AND then cut immediately into the other lane,, to go to wally world. The far lane had to slam on their brakes,, and a guy just ahead of me, to my right,, hit the car in front who had to slam on their brakes to avoid hitting the car in front of them. The car that allowed the gas station car out,, drove on, oblivious to the accident. The car that cut everybody off,, went into the wally world parking lot,, and the accident was several cars back.

I had my dash camera on,, so I pulled turned left,, went around,, and got into the parking lot away from the accident. I then went to the driver of the car who hit the car from behind,, and gave him my info,, and let him know I had it all on camera. His insurance agency has already contacted me wanting that micro SD card.

I try hard to be polite,, courteous,, and helpful to as many people as I can. But there are laws,, and there is common sense. In traffic,,, there are lights & such to assist folks in being safe & getting into & out of traffic. The idiot who got out,, and then cut across into another lane could have EASILY gone a different direction, gotten out AND crossed over the intersection w/o causing an accident. All it would have taken is for them to make a bit of a circle,, and go through 2 lights,,, by basically going around the block, and entering the wally world lot from an easier access. They didn't want to do that. Apparently wally world had something they needed so badly, and was selling out in nano seconds to where they had to cause a wreck to get it.

The good samaritan was oblivious to all of it. And in my way of thinking,,, they were not a good samaritan,,, BECAUSE of the problems they caused to two others in the wreck. Being nice is fine,, if it only affects you & the other person. When you are nice to one,, you are not being nice to many others in these types of situations.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:16 am 
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Seriously? You are blaming the actions of a jerk driver on the actions of someone being polite. That is like blaming WWII on Adolf Hitler's father. After all, if he hadn't had relations with his wife Adolf wouldn't have been born.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:39 am 
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Dave P. wrote:
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when this is done,, it disrupts the flow of traffic,,, which slows down a lot of people. So,, by being courteous to one,,, you are discourteous to many others.

Thoughts?


I'm selectively nice. If they're making a right turn, have no better option out of the
parking lot and traffic is going pretty much nowhere, I'll let em out.
If there's an exit to a cross street with a signal or obvious better choices, it
ain't happening.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:56 am 
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Two cars traveling in opposite directions met in the middle of a narrow bridge. One driver yelled out his window "I don't back up for jerks.", the other driver replied "I do" and backed off the bridge to allow the other driver to pass.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:48 pm 
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Fox Mike wrote:
Seriously? You are blaming the actions of a jerk driver on the actions of someone being polite. That is like blaming WWII on Adolf Hitler's father. After all, if he hadn't had relations with his wife Adolf wouldn't have been born.


Frank;
WHO was he being "polite TOO?" the idiot wanting out of the gas station? Sorry, apparently VERY impolite to the people behind him and then too he allowed a jerk out to cut across the lane and ultimately cause an accident behind him

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:59 pm 
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Colonialgirl wrote:
Fox Mike wrote:
Seriously? You are blaming the actions of a jerk driver on the actions of someone being polite. That is like blaming WWII on Adolf Hitler's father. After all, if he hadn't had relations with his wife Adolf wouldn't have been born.


Frank;
WHO was he being "polite TOO?" the idiot wanting out of the gas station? Sorry, apparently VERY impolite to the people behind him and then too he allowed a jerk out to cut across the lane and ultimately cause an accident behind him

I am not advocating traveling down the highway and locking up the brakes to let someone enter the highway. If I am already stopped and someone can be let out of a street or lot I will do so. So being polite and allowing someone to exit requires knowing the intentions of the driver you are being polite to? Sorry, you all can continue to be self centered and self serving. Personally I will continue to be polite when I see the need. I will sleep well knowing that I am not a jerk.

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